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Thomas Davies farmer
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 21:56 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone.

Looking to find a death/burial for Thomas Davies, a farmer at Pantyfeillionen, Llandysul. Hes at Pantyfeillionen in 1841 through to 1861. The 1861 census says hes a farmer of 59 acres. Born around 1796 in Llandysul and family members are:

Hannah (nee Jones) b. around 1799 in Llangeler, Carmarthenshire (WIFE)

Children are:

John 1826
Hannah 1827
Enoch 1829
Evan 1832
Thomas 1836
Mary 1839

Im not overly familiar geographically with this area, so fumbling around with places. Can anybody point me in the right direction please?

Thank.
David.
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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 October 25 22:20 BST (UK) »
If you look at the 1861 entry it shows he was living in the Newcastle in Emlyn RD but freebmd has a great many deaths for his name between 1861-1871

You will need to use GRO online to determine the ages of those listed

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Possibles in 1862 & 1870
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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 October 25 22:26 BST (UK) »
1871 census at Pantfeillionen with Hannah widowed

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V55P-33P?lang=en

Death for Thomas should be registered at Newcastle in Emlyn
Couple of possibles & there are more
Thomas Davies 72 jun qtr 1868 Newcastle in Emlyn vol 11b pg 21
Thomas Davies 73 march qtr 1870 Newcastle in Emlyn vol 11b pg 18

Hannah died 9 May 1879
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3558633/3558637/25/?from=search
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 October 25 22:26 BST (UK) »
Not doing very well, but have spotted that the farm is often referred to as Pantfeillionen

Have found a couple of death notices for Hannah, but they give no clue as to when her husband died or where she was buried. They seem to be in North Wales papers and suggest she'd moved from the farm.


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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 October 25 09:18 BST (UK) »
Here is Pant-feillionen (sic), approximately east of Cardigan and south of Newquay.
(OS Sheet Cardiganshire 40 NW surveyed 1887)

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=13.0&lat=52.05675&lon=-4.31853&layers=257&b=ESRIWorld&o=100&marker=52.069378,-4.338735

Llandysul is about 2.4 miles SSE of the farm, just above the "marker" box.
(Carmarthenshire 14 NE, 1886-7)

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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 October 25 10:22 BST (UK) »
The NLS has patchy coverage of this area at 1:2500 (25-inch) scale.  Having failed to find Llandysul there, I moved to the 6-inch scale and eventually found the farm.
Now I find there is a 1:2500 2nd ed.sheet (revised 1904) including Pant-feillionen.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/135192796#zoom=3.6&lat=6030&lon=3716&layers=BT

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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 October 25 12:55 BST (UK) »
Death for Thomas should be registered at Newcastle in Emlyn

Thomas Davies 72 jun qtr 1868 Newcastle in Emlyn vol 11b pg 21

Possible entry in the probate calendar for 1868
4 July
The Will of Thomas Davies late of Pantfeillionen in the Parish of Llandyssil in the County of Cardigan Farmer deceased who died 4 May 1868 at Pantfeillionen aforesaid was proved at Carmarthen by the oath of Hannah Davies of Pantfeillionen aforesaid Widow the Relict the sole Executrix.
Effects under £200.

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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 October 25 13:30 BST (UK) »
In case there is a connection, a will of another Thomas Davies in 1823
Thomas Davies, Pantfeillionen, Llandysul, Cardigan, Farmer
https://viewer.library.wales/474007#?xywh=-1635%2C0%2C5985%2C3411

Abstract here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S7WF-S87Q-J9

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Re: Thomas Davies farmer
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 October 25 20:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone! Osprey, thank you for confirming the 1871 census for Hannah! And thank you Molly for showing the location on the NLS site.

Very helpful. Thank you both.
Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering