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Re: William Buchanan 1840
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 10:41 »
Looking at the link you gave, your wife is descended from John MURRAY and Minnie ORMISTON both born in the 1860s in Sunderland but married in Scotland in 1886.

Owen MURRAY and Catherine (maiden surname DONOVAN) didn't have a son named John living with them in census records.  Their eldest son, Owen, was a shipwright like his father and is still living with his mother and siblings in 1891 in London.

If you want help with your MURRAY family you really need to post specific details like information from John and Minnie's marriage cert.

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Re: William Buchanan 1840
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 14:42 »
If Minnie's parents names came from her marriage cert then this is their marriage:

Marriages Dec 1864 

ORMSTON, Matthew William        
SOWTER,  Jane Young        
Sunderland  10a   717   

Jane divorced Matthew in 1872.  They had three children, Sarah Jane (1865),  Jane (1867), and Mary Young (born 1870 died 1871).  Minnie's birth name must have been Jane.

Jane Young SOWTER had two more marriages:

Marriages Mar 1877

DUNCAN,    Robert        
ORMSTON, Jane Young   
Newcastle T.    10b   174

Marriages Dec 1882 

DUNCAN,   Jane Young       
KENNY,  James        
Tynemouth    10b   342

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Re: William Buchanan 1840
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 18:28 »
Looking at the link you gave, your wife is descended from John MURRAY and Minnie ORMISTON both born in the 1860s in Sunderland but married in Scotland in 1886.

Owen MURRAY and Catherine (maiden surname DONOVAN) didn't have a son named John living with them in census records.  Their eldest son, Owen, was a shipwright like his father and is still living with his mother and siblings in 1891 in London.

If you want help with your MURRAY family you really need to post specific details like information from John and Minnie's marriage cert.

Debra  :)

There's an Owen Murray (33) with wife Catherine (32) and sons John 7 and Owen 2 in Normanton (Wakefield district)  in 1871. Parents both Irish, Owen's a labourer. John b Leeds, Owen in Normanton

Owen and Kate in Bishopwearmouth in 1881 also have a son Owen of a similar age. I wonder if a link has been made between these two entries. However  the occupations, ages and places of birth don't match otherwise


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Re: William Buchanan 1840
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 20:08 »
The 1871 Wakefield family have mmn as Mulvey so don't think there is a connection.

Owen was born 1868

MURRAY, MICHAEL  OWEN  mm    DONOVON 
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 480

Charles 1870

MURRAY, CHARLES    mmn   DENOVEN 
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 506

Obtaining the 1870 birth cert may help with address search to possibly find family in 1871. Some birth & death certs are available as instant digital download for a cost of £3.00 if unaware.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: William Buchanan 1840
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 20:21 »
Think this maybe John in 1881. Registered 1864 as Buchanan at birth but going as Murray in census.

1881
60 Peacock St, Bishopwearmouth
Piece   4991, Folio   45, Page number   37

Thomas Boyd 40 Head, Scotland, Dairyman
Agnes Boyd 65 Mother, Scotland
Ann Gurkin 26 Servant
John Murray   16   Servant, Milk boy, born S'land (Sunderland)

Agnes is nee Young, long shot, but wonder if connected to the research by Dundee (Debra)

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: William Buchanan 1840
« Reply #14 on: Today at 02:05 »
I was wondering about him too, but the John we are after became an Assurance Agent/Superintendent.  Anything is possible, but I think he would have had a fairly good education and opportunities.

Debra  :)