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Forrest/Forrester
« on: Friday 26 September 25 19:32 BST (UK) »
Hello all
I wonder if anyone can suggest ways to solve this puzzle, if there are any that I haven't already thought of.
My 5 x great grandparents John Anderson and Agnes Forrest had five children (who I have found) in Haddington.

John 1772 (my direct ancestor)
Margaret 1773
James 1775
Alexander 1777
Robert 1779

I think I have John b. 1748 in Garvald but have never found a marriage for John and Agnes nor any birth or baptism for her. After leaving it on the back burner for a while, I returned to the puzzle and thinking outside the box decided to look for Forrest/Forresters in Garvald.  Going by the naming tradition, Agnes's parents should in theory be James and Margaret.  And yes, there is a couple James and Margaret having children in the right timescale (though no Agnes among them).  The problem is that they are James Davidson and Margaret Forrest.  The baptism records of the Anderson children all confirm that their mother was Agnes Forrest.   
I've looked all over Scotland and tried all sorts of name variations but can't get anywhere. 
Can anyone suggest where I could look? 
Many thanks
Bev
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Re: Forrest/Forrester
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 September 25 10:39 BST (UK) »
Just for information.

Birth/Baptisms Haddington, father JOHN ANDERSON, as Transcribed on SP.

JOHN 1772 mother AGNIS FOSTER
MARGARET 1773 mother AGNIS FORRESTER
JAMES 1775 mother AGNES FOSTER
ALEXANDER 1777 mother AGNES FOSTER
ROBERT mother 1779 AGNESS FOSTER

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Re: Forrest/Forrester/Foster
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 September 25 11:11 BST (UK) »
Just for information.

Birth/Baptisms Haddington, father JOHN ANDERSON, as Transcribed on SP.

JOHN 1772 mother AGNIS FOSTER
MARGARET 1773 mother AGNIS FORRESTER
JAMES 1775 mother AGNES FOSTER
ALEXANDER 1777 mother AGNES FOSTER
ROBERT mother 1779 AGNESS FOSTER

Colin

Thank you, Colin - I forgot about Foster!
I've added it to the title.
Bev
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Forrest/Forrester
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 September 25 12:23 BST (UK) »
Can anyone suggest where I could look? 
If you have exhausted the possibilities on Scotland's People, then realistically there almost certainly isn't anywhere else, certainly not online, and it is very probable that the marriage record, if it ever existed, has not survived.

Also, a possible baptism on its own is not certain to be the right one because so many records have not survived and there could well be another John Anderson and/or Agn*s For*s*t* whose baptism records are also missing from the surviving records.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: Forrest/Forrester
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 September 25 19:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you.
Of course, some records just haven't survived to be found.
I have to assume that the family Davidson-Forrest in Garvald is just a coincidence.
Bev.
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Forrest/Forrester
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 September 25 15:56 BST (UK) »
Have you checked the records on SP for the children of John & Agnes?

If so was there any additional information?

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Re: Forrest/Forrester
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 September 25 19:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you Col for replying.

Here's what I have for the Anderson baptisms.

John  (my ancestor) bapt. 22/3/1772 son of John and Agnis (Foster), witnesses Richard and James Anderson
Margaret  bapt. 47/7/1773 (MMN Forrester), witnesses James and Richard Anderson
James bapt. 20/8/1775 (MMN Foster), witnesses Richard and James Anderson
Alexander bapt. 16/5/1777 (MMN Foster), witnesses Richard and James Anderson
Robert bapt. 22/8/1779 (MMN Foster), witnesses Richard and James Anderson

And now here's a real fly in the works.
I also have an earlier baptism.
Richard Anderson bapt. 7/1/1770, parents Richard Anderson and Agnis Forrester  ??? ???
I  can find no record for a Richard which could fit, either.  This Richard would likely be a brother or the father of John. The more I look at this, the more confused I get!

Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Forrest/Forrester
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 11:02 BST (UK) »
The same records appear on Freereg but I always check the original records where possible. Is there any possibility that the records on SP show any sort of error for Richard and Margaret or is there any information in the Kirk Session Records?

Richard ANDERSON/Richard FORRESTER
Born 5 Jan 1770 Baptism 7 Jan 1770
Haddington Parish Church :East Lothian
Parents Richard Anderson & Agnis Forrester. Witts John Hall and James Anderson

Margaret ANDERSON/Margaret FORRESTER
Born 1 Jul 1773 Baptism 4 Jul 1773
Haddington Parish Church, East Lothian
Parents John & Agnes Forrester Witts Richard and James Andersons

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Re: Forrest/Forrester
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 11:09 BST (UK) »
This looks like a possible marriage for MARGARET ANDERSON to

JOHN PRINGLE 27/01/1792 Haddington on SP.

Does the record note her father?

Colin
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