Banns, did they require signatures?

[Romilly]

Yes, I posted that Coombs.

It’s from the 1886 Manchester Militia Records on Ancestry.

However, it appears to be his Father’s signature, (also Richard Kean), as he supported the application.

It actually says, ‘signature of the person vouching for the recruit’.

Romilly.

[Romilly]

William James Wilson’s signature is on the 1911 and 1921 Censuses, and also on his Marriage Certificate; which I’ve just tried to post on here, but is too large apparently. The Marriage Certificate, with original signatures is on FindMyPast, - William James Wilson married Margaret Rees at the Parish Church, Swansea on the 22nd June 1893.

Romilly

[jonwarrn]

MLFHS Catholic Register Index
Marriage 1880, at Manchester, St. Wilfrid, Hulme
Richardum KEAN   
Mariam Annam YOUNG
https://mlfhs.uk/databases/catholic-records

Marriage registers for St. Wilfrid's have been transcribed for the period 1844-1916.The original registers are deposited at Lancashire Archives, Preston
https://mlfhs.uk/databases/catholic-records/register-index#1

Looking at some contemporary catholic marriage registers that are online, they don't have signatures of the bride and groom. I suppose there could be exceptions.

[jonwarrn]

Sorry, I see you have already been through all this last year
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815251.27

[coombs]

I was excited for you when I found that signature, unaware you already knew about it.

[Romilly]

I was excited for you when I found that signature, unaware you already knew about it.

Apologies Coombs,

I should have ‘gathered previous threads’, but to be honest, I’ve been on here since 2005, and there are so many! 😢
I’ve been trying to find definitive answers about my Grandfather since I first started looking in the 1970’s. Every so often I give up, - and then something makes me have another look. I don’t like feeling defeated ☹️

[jonwarrn]

Have you got Richard's baptism?
Baptism, 1860, at Manchester, St. Wilfrid, Hulme
Ricardus KEAN
Father Ricardi KEAN
Mother Francescae BUTLER
https://mlfhs.uk/databases/catholic-records

[Romilly]

Yes thanks Jowarrn , I have that.

I tried pursuing Richard Kean’s Birth Certificate, but he doesn’t seem to have had one. Curious, because the other children of Richard Kean and Frances Butler had them.

I’ve found him on the Censuses, until after 1891, when he disappears.

My Grandfather William James Wilson is nowhere to be found before he married my Grandmother in Swansea in 1893, after that he’s on the 1901, 1911 and 1921 Censuses for Swansea.

Romilly.