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Confusing Baptism Entries
« on: Friday 26 September 25 13:33 BST (UK) »

Checking the baptism of Anna Maria Lake, born 1839, I see her parents are recorded as Samuel Lake and Eliza Bickers, and under residence it says 'their child'. All other entries conform to usual expectations. The corresponding BT doesn't include a father, just Eliza Bickers but that may be due to a bad copy.  The couple had married locally in 1836 so why are they treated this way - any ideas? 

Davison - London
South - London, Hampshire
Sharp(e) - Hertfordshire, Suffolk
Lee - Ireland, London
Edwards - Wiltshire, London
Bickers - London, Norfolk, Suffolk
Murray - London

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Re: Confusing Baptism Entries
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 September 25 14:12 BST (UK) »
GRO give the entry for Anna Maria Lake - June quarter 1839 - Loddon and Clavering Union - mother's maiden name is Bickers.

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Re: Confusing Baptism Entries
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 September 25 14:35 BST (UK) »
That's right - there's no explanation, she's legitimate and her entry is in the middle of the page.  All the others are as you would expect.  It feels a bit personal but I can't think why. 
Davison - London
South - London, Hampshire
Sharp(e) - Hertfordshire, Suffolk
Lee - Ireland, London
Edwards - Wiltshire, London
Bickers - London, Norfolk, Suffolk
Murray - London

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Re: Confusing Baptism Entries
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 September 25 21:18 BST (UK) »
Hi,

It often depends on who performed the christening as to what details are included some were more particular than others.

In this instance it is J B Thompson, if you turn to the next page you will see item no 62 he again records  the Mothers maiden name.

So nothing strange, he obviously felt it important to include MMN.

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Re: Confusing Baptism Entries
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 September 25 21:21 BST (UK) »
Ah, that's may explain it - a very particular cleric.  Thank you, that feels better!
Davison - London
South - London, Hampshire
Sharp(e) - Hertfordshire, Suffolk
Lee - Ireland, London
Edwards - Wiltshire, London
Bickers - London, Norfolk, Suffolk
Murray - London

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Re: Confusing Baptism Entries
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 September 25 22:20 BST (UK) »
If  Samuel Lake and Eliza Bickers married 1836, Anna Maria Lake - June quarter 1839 - Loddon and Clavering Union - mother's maiden name is Bickers GRO and the baptism named Anna Maria Lake parents as Samuel Lake and Eliza Bickers (Its not that unusual to name the mother maiden name on baptisms)

Anna Maria Lake birth certificate should clarify the important info.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 September 25 22:25 BST (UK) »
That's all true, Dobfarm. The docs proved those details but the church baptismal records looked as if the parents weren't married, the BT only shows mum and her maiden name.  But spendlove has pointed out that the particular cleric had a habit of recording mmn while his colleagues didn't.  All good now!
Davison - London
South - London, Hampshire
Sharp(e) - Hertfordshire, Suffolk
Lee - Ireland, London
Edwards - Wiltshire, London
Bickers - London, Norfolk, Suffolk
Murray - London

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Re: Confusing Baptism Entries
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 September 25 00:07 BST (UK) »
I'm afraid ancestry records don't always give uniformity! that modern admin workers work to high standards of paperwork that need have uniformed consistency records -  that we are use too today - unfortunately. ::)

Your lucky as a lot of pre 1813 church registers baptisms only give the fathers name, and marriages don't give fathers name or occupation.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth