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How to find birth location from 1797
« on: Wednesday 24 September 25 07:27 BST (UK) »
My GGGG grandfather Thomas Deaves was born 2nd May 1797, as normal birth certs didn’t come in until much later , can anyone give me instructions to finding out his birth location?

I’m assuming Liverpool ( even tho you should never assume)

He got married in St Chads Shrewsbury in 1817 ( cordwainer occ) I also have a business entry from 1821 saying he’s a cordwainer in Liverpool.

By 1828 he appears to have moved to tower St Shrewsbury as a cordwainer

How do I sus out his birth location?

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 07:39 BST (UK) »
You need to find his baptism, if it exists.
Also try to find him on early censuses. 1841 will only say whether he was born in county; 1851 etc should name his birthplace.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 08:04 BST (UK) »
1861 Census Shrewsbury

Thomas Deaves 64 Shoemaker born Liverpool  Blind 20 years
Sarah 62
Sarah 28
George 26
Edwin  17 (grandson)

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 08:09 BST (UK) »
Wow thank you

Blind 20 years? I’m assuming that relates to Thomas Deaves vision?

How sad thank you , I’m off to find his grave today.

His death certificate says chronic bronchitis and exhaustion , occupational bronchitis I bet

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 08:20 BST (UK) »
1841 Census  Castle Gates Shrewsbury   (on ancestry as Draves)

Thomas Deaves 40  N (not born in County) shoemaker
Sarah 40                 Yes
Sarah 11
George 8
Hannah 3
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Sarah was born 19 January 1829 bap 12 April 1829 of Castle Foregate, at St Mary's
Hannah was born 2 June 1838 bap. 1 August 1838 also at St Mary's
Edwin  Born 9 November 1835 bap. 30 November 1835  Buried 14 December 1835

Haven't found George or the Grand son Edwin yet.

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 08:29 BST (UK) »
I had Edwin as the son of Thomas Deaves’ son Robert Deaves and wife gwenny Pugh)

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 08:50 BST (UK) »
The 1835 Edwin is the son of Thomas and Sarah see baptism record for St Mary's (ancestry)

The grandson Edwin born circa 1843 perhaps is the one you are referring to.

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 08:59 BST (UK) »
I was getting my Edwin’s mixed up , will revisit the tree later when I get back , these are the children of Thomas and Sarah that I had , will revisit dobs later

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Re: How to find birth location from 1797
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 September 25 09:20 BST (UK) »
I think he could be the illegitimate son of one of the daughters Sarah or Margaret

Possibly him living with Sarah married name Hood in 1901 as Edward.
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