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Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« on: Tuesday 23 September 25 00:38 BST (UK) »
Hi, the historian of my local soccer/footbball club has asked if I can find the death of a former player.  His name was Thomas Septimus Dickinson (he used his middle name), born 1890 in Lancashire, England.  Apparently he married in Ontario 11 Nov 1919.  As we can't find a death in the UK, we think he might of died in Canada, If anyone can help, it would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 02:27 BST (UK) »
There is an obituary I don't have access to on 4 Sept 1956 for T S DICKINSON at Central Hospital, Vancouver, in the newspaper "The Province".

Some trees on Ancestry have this record attached to Thomas Septimus DICKINSON, however I note that there is also a Thomas Smith DICKINSON who died in Vancouver on 1 Sept 1956 aged 56.

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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 02:48 BST (UK) »
Apparently he married in Ontario 11 Nov 1919. 

Actually he married 4 Nov 1914 at Fort William, Thunder Bay, Ontario
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:278Q-5HF?lang=en

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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 03:12 BST (UK) »
I think this is Thomas and Margaret in Fort William in 1931 (DICKSON)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6RST-7TZL?lang=en

I can't find the 1921 census on familysearch, however the family are in Nanaimo, British Columbia

Thomas Septimus DICKINSON  32  clerk (born England)
Margaret                                        29 (Scotland)
Mary Rimmer                                 5  (Ontario)
Thomas William                             3m (British Columbia)


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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 10:05 BST (UK) »
There is an obituary I don't have access to on 4 Sept 1956 for T S DICKINSON at Central Hospital, Vancouver, in the newspaper "The Province".

Some trees on Ancestry have this record attached to Thomas Septimus DICKINSON, however I note that there is also a Thomas Smith DICKINSON who died in Vancouver on 1 Sept 1956 aged 56.

This is the obituary (with photograph) referred to BUT he was born 3 July 1899 Guysborough, Guysborough County, Nova Scotia, Canada  ??  No mention of football in the obituary ? The marriage record Maddy gives is the right guy, married 5 th November 1914

The Province
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 
Tue, 4 Sept 1956
Page 37

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/181602046/

FIND A GRAVE  (Thomas Smith Dickinson)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/209350275/thomas-smith-dickinson

Notice to creditors. (Thomas Smith Dickinson)

The Vancouver News-Herald
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 
Tue, 29 Jan 1957
Page 15

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-vancouver-news-herald/181602411/

Notice the signature here :- Cecil Claire Dickinson (Executirix)

The engagement notice in 1929 confirms this is Thomas Smith Dickinson son of William Dickinson of West Vancouver.

The Province
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 
Sun, 15 Dec 1929
Page 34

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/181602449/



1911 census 24 Hart St Southport Lancashire.

James William Dickenson   54   Head
Mary Dickenson 51 Wife
Thomas Septimus Dickenson 21 Son. Auctioneers Clerk
Wilfred Dickenson 18 Son
Christopher Hortence Dickenson 12 Son
Alan Rimmer Dickenson 10 Son
Jane Halsall 27 Housemaid

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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 10:35 BST (UK) »
One to discount :- There was the arrival on the Empress of France of another Septimus Dickinson born 1892 - arrived 29 September 1920, described as single. Occupation :- mailman - birth place West Didsbury Manchester.
Also appears on Canada Ocean Arrivals gave his mother as Mrs A E Dickinson. 36 South Drive. Chorltonville. Manchester.
Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956 - December 1920 -Rouses Point, Clinton, New York

This appears to be the son of Robert Woolstencroft Dickinson and Annie Elizabeth as per UK 1911 census.
This Septimus Dickinson passed away 8 July 1922 Buenos Aires. Argentina.  - probate 11 November 1922 (36 South Drive. Chorlton Cum Hardy)

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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 11:01 BST (UK) »


This is the obituary (with photograph) referred to BUT he was born 3 July 1899 Guysborough, Guysborough County, Nova Scotia, Canada  ??  No mention of football in the obituary ?

The Province
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 
Tue, 4 Sept 1956
Page 37

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/181602046/


That's great Sandra. I thought the obituary and the death record must be related - the wrong T S DICKINSON. As is often the case, Ancestry trees have it incorrect.

Will keep looking - I can't see any records after 1931 for Thomas or Margaret.

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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 11:45 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Thomas Septimus and Margaret (Peggy) also stayed in this area ?
The McLeod parents are buried Fort William Thunder Bay.

Daughter - Mary Rimmer Dickinson married in 1949 to Leslie D Dack -

Mary passed away 19 May 2002 Thunder Bay Ontario. (with photograph)

https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/11370489/mrs.-mary-dack

Leslie D Dack passed away 2004 Thunder Bay Ontario.

Obituary for Leslie D Dack

https://www.legacy.com/ca/obituaries/chroniclejournal/name/leslie-dack-obituary?id=43264936

Photo of Leslie D Dack

https://www.everestofthunderbay.com/obituaries/Mr-Leslie-D-DACK?obId=11371133

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Re: Death of Former Soccer Player Thomas Septimus Dickinson
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 September 25 15:01 BST (UK) »
Another Canadian connection...........


There is an obituary for Alan Rimmer Dickinson passed away in 1964 but no mention of brother Thomas Septimus Dickinson  :-\

The Province
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Tue, 6 Oct 1964
Page 28

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/181607822/

Death Certificate - no parents mentioned  :-\

https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/2a02dcaa-e365-4b4f-ba44-ce36b4acc0c1

Canada Ocean Arrivals - 11 May 1923 - on the Montcalm - Alan Rimmer Dickinson - born Southport - aged 23 years - destines to Busby Alberta - brother Robert Dickinson.  Father James William Dickinson. 24 Hart Street. Southport. Lancashire.

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BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

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