Elizabeth Rippingall

[PatLac]

I did find a document on Google search that Henry Rippingall of Aylsham took on Christopher Layer as his apprentice. But this document has more info on him. A very prominent figure in the Aylsham area at the time. Scroll down to Page 16 for info on Christopher Layer.

https://aylshamhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Vol6.1.pdf

Christopher's demise was absolutely tragic. 

He actually had 3 daughters and not two as this doc says.

His eldest daughter Anna or Nanny (b. 1710, Tuttington, Norfolk) was sent to be educated in France under the care of General Dillon’s wife and Lady Lidcott, before her father's arrest.

Elizabeth (b. 1712, Aylsham, Norfolk) was his heir at the age of 14.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LL3-MK2?view=fullText&keywords=Elizabeth%20Layer&lang=en&groupId=

The third daughter Mary (Maria) Clementina was born in London in 1721 and died there aged 2 the same year her father was executed at Tyburn. She was named after James Francis Edward Stuart's wife Maria Clementina Sobieska, they were her godparents.

See the book The Atterbury Plot by Eveline Cruickshanks and Howard Erskine-Hill.

[PatLac]

Harmer Rogers (presumably Joseph’s son) baptised a daughter Diana Ann in Kidwelly in 1779. There’s an earlier baptism in Swansea 1776 and a 1779 burial in Kidwelly. Ties in with the 1777 manor records.

For reference:

Diana Ann b Swansea was buried in Kidwelly 7 April 1779, and Harmer’s second daughter Diana Ann was baptised there 26 December 1779.

Diana Harmer was Joseph Rogers’ benefactor. Her 1771 will leaves all the Harmer lands around Swafield, Knapton etc. to Joseph. So although we started by assuming the connection was between John Harmer surgeon of Norwich and Joseph Rogers, it may be the connection between the two families predates that.

That is interesting. What was the relationship between John Harmer MD and Diana Harmer? I have found her tree on FamilySearch but there is no mention of John.

[Ili1133]

This book confirms that Henry Rippingall, the Aylsham attorney, had two children, and that they could have been fathered by Christopher Layer

Great find! Have been trying to read the rest of the page to get the context of the remark.
Its really turning into an interesting story 

Added: Here’s the link to the full page through Internet Archive

https://archive.org/details/norfolkantiquar00ryegoog/page/n278/mode/2up?q=Aylsham

[Ili1133]

What was the relationship between John Harmer MD and Diana Harmer? I have found her tree on FamilySearch but there is no mention of John.

Diana was the youngest daughter of William Harmer of Swafield (d 1710). His will mentions a brother John (could he still have been practising in the 1740s? The Shotesham website suggests he worked in the first half of the 18th century). So John Harmer MD was probably either Diana’s uncle or her cousin.

[coombs]

Interesting read, and that they had a quarrel and Christopher's parting words were that he said he was the father of Rippingall's children. Leaving Aylsham with a bang, but of course he may have just said that to put the doubt into Henry's mind and in the heat of the moment. We will probably never know for sure anyway.

[PatLac]

Could Elizabeth have had a non-conformist burial? Elizabeth, their first child, was baptised in a non-conformist (congregational) church in Norwich.

Maybe their first child Elizabeth was baptised in a non-conformist church in Norwich on 19 May 1751 because 18 year-old Elizabeth was probably pregnant when they married in London on 16 August 1750. was still a minor?

[PatLac]

Can someone post this newspaper clipping?

ABOUT PEOPLE

... records the transfer by sale of manorial rights at Gimingham and Trimingham from the Rippingalls to the Pastons. In 1701, Henry Rippingall was buried in the south aisle of Aylsham Church, and within the succeeding five and twenty years we find the family at ...

Published: Saturday 13 January 1906
Newspaper: Norwich Argus
County: Norfolk, England
Type: Article | Words: 1346 | Page: 1

[coombs]

I shall upload the clipping later but the transcript is as follows for the 2nd paragraph. It concerns an FTS Rippingall who is contesting North Norfolk in the Unionist interests, and who lives at Langham Manor Cottage near Blakeney. The article mentions a Captain Maryatt who lived there and died in 1846. I shall upload the first paragraph as well but for now the 2nd paragraph:-

The Rippingall family have been established in Norfolk for centuries. The earliest records describe them as being of Cobholm Island on the Suffolk side of the river to Yarmouth. They were in Suffolk inbetween 1561 and 1612 but an old deed records the transfer by sale of manorial rights at Gimmingham and Trimmingham from the Rippingalls to the Pastons. In 1701, Henry Rippingall was buried in the south aisle of Aylsham Church, and within the succeeding five and twenty years we find the family at Langham, the property coming to them through the marriage of Thomas Rippingall with the only daughter and heiress of Stephen Frost.
The Rev. Stephen Frost Rippingall left the manor cottage to the gentleman who is now the Unionist candidate for North Norfolk. Mr Rippingall is a good country gentleman, one who has performed his fair quota of public service as magistrate, chairman of guardians, county councillor and other capacities. For a year or two he was Lieutenant in the Carabineers and after leaving, went on a tour to Spain where he had the exciting experience of being in St. Sebastain's when the Carlists besieged the place.

[PatLac]

Thank you, coombs, much appreciated  Maybe there's no need to upload the image.

This infomation is very interesting. I wonder if this Thomas Ripingail (I read his signature as Ripnigall) is one of the Rippingalls from Suffolk mentioned in the article?

Will of Thomas Ripingail, Husbandman of Great Thurlow, Suffolk

Reference:   PROB 11/126/493
Description:   Will of Thomas Ripingail, Husbandman of Great Thurlow, Suffolk
Date:   21 November 1615
Held by:   The National Archives, Kew
Legal status:   Public Record(s)
Closure status:   Open Document, Open Description

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D907146