Elizabeth Rippingall

[PatLac]

The Will of Mary Coney, widow, mentioned her son in law Henry Rippingall of Aylsham and a spinster Hannah Portland of Norwich.

Fyrmin Lawes married Margaret Portland in Heigham in 1569 and are probably ancestors of Hannah Lawes, Henry's first wife.

No idea who Mary Coney was though. Hannah's mother after a second marriage?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C39F-P95T-N


I can't find Hannah Lawes anywhere but Mary Coney apparently had a daughter called Hannah in 1668 in Aylsham (no father listed).


https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/6844f0028655745405edc3f7/hannah-coney-baptism-norfolk-aylsham-1668-07-31?locale=en

Father Joseph (or Jospeh) Coney

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DW19-SNC?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AVNN1-7MC&action=view&cc=1416598&lang=en&groupId=M9SS-1T3


Mary Lawes was the granddaughter of Thomas Lawes (Lawse) of Heigham, so she was a Lawes after all, but I don't know if Hannah Coney became Hannah Lawes after Joseph's death, which apparently happened before she was born, in 1667.

[PatLac]

Yes, I think the source is correct.

Henry Rippingall’s will (1717) mentions small bequests to brothers Bartholomew and Cyprian (when he reaches the age of 21) and sisters Hannah and Ellen (?)

The bulk of his estate (freehold and copyhold) is left to his friend Thomas Last of Aylsham.

Lli1133, where is this will available? Does it mention Buxton, the village?

[jonwarrn]

Henry Rippingall’s will (1717)

is on FamilySearch, starts bottom left (number 38)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-89BQ-X

Does it mention Buxton, the village?

It does.

[PatLac]

Thanks, jonwarm 

He is mentioned in the 1714 Norfolk voters list living in Buxton. I'm trying to find Henry Rippingall junior, born c. 1690.

This book confirms that Henry Rippingall, the Aylsham attorney, had two children, and that they could have been fathered by Christopher Layer 

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Norfolk_Antiquarian_Miscellany/uUIuAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22rippingall%22+%22aylsham%22&pg=RA1-PA64&printsec=frontcover

[Ili1133]

One Elizabeth Rogers buried at St Martin's Laugharne Carmarthenshire.


https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5e810c2ff493fd6c50ef7806/elizabeth-rogers-burial-carmarthenshire-laugharne-1777-03-27?locale=en

For reference.

The details from the Camarthenshire burials images mean we can discount those mentioned earlier in the thread apart from

Elizabeth Rogers bur Lagharne 27 Mar 1777 - image doesn’t give any other details (and some of the other burials on the page do mention if the burial is of someone from outside the parish)

In the process of trying to trace her husband Joseph forward to his second marriage in 1784, where he is of St Dunstall in the West, this possibility came up:

Elizabeth Rogers bur St Bride, City of London bur 21 Jul 1782 age 52. The age is not quite right (Elizabeth was bapt 1733) but St Bride adjoins St Dunstan parish, is further along Fleet Street and was quite a fashionable church in this period.

Neither of these burials specify ‘Mrs.’.

Could Elizabeth have had a non-conformist burial? Elizabeth, their first child, was baptised in a non-conformist (congregational) church in Norwich.

[Ili1133]

Harmer Rogers (presumably Joseph’s son) baptised a daughter Diana Ann in Kidwelly in 1779. There’s an earlier baptism in Swansea 1776 and a 1779 burial in Kidwelly. Ties in with the 1777 manor records.

For reference:

Diana Ann b Swansea was buried in Kidwelly 7 April 1779, and Harmer’s second daughter Diana Ann was baptised there 26 December 1779.

Diana Harmer was Joseph Rogers’ benefactor. Her 1771 will leaves all the Harmer lands around Swafield, Knapton etc. to Joseph. So although we started by assuming the connection was between John Harmer surgeon of Norwich and Joseph Rogers, it may be the connection between the two families predates that.

[petey22]

Thanks, jonwarm 

He is mentioned in the 1714 Norfolk voters list living in Buxton. I'm trying to find Henry Rippingall junior, born c. 1690.

This book confirms that Henry Rippingall, the Aylsham attorney, had two children, and that they could have been fathered by Christopher Layer 

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Norfolk_Antiquarian_Miscellany/uUIuAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22rippingall%22+%22aylsham%22&pg=RA1-PA64&printsec=frontcover

Great find! Have been trying to read the rest of the page to get the context of the remark.
Its really turning into an interesting story 

[Ili1133]

For reference

https://archive.org/details/someaccountofpar01eade/page/16/mode/2up?q=Norwich+rogers+surgeon+eade

In 1768 the surgeon Joseph Rogers was one of three District Medical Officers for the parishes of the city of Norwich. If he had this responsibility, why would he and his son Harmer choose to move their families to Wales? Kidwelly was quite prosperous at the time but it doesn’t appear to have a big ‘pull’ factor. Perhaps something happened to push them out of Norfolk?

[coombs]

I did find a document on Google search that Henry Rippingall of Aylsham took on Christopher Layer as his apprentice. But this document has more info on him. A very prominent figure in the Aylsham area at the time. Scroll down to Page 16 for info on Christopher Layer.

https://aylshamhistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Vol6.1.pdf