Christopher Laws

[Spelk]

Well spotted for the marriage. Interesting to see that Griffin LAWS went all the way to Norwich (for work?) got married and then returned back to the Lynn area.

Using Freebmd
https://www.freebmd.org.uk

The Elizabeth MOORE born in 1823 seems to get married >
Marriage q1 1846 Freebridge Lynn 13 279 -  Elizabeth MOORE and John BONE or John HOOKS or James SCOTT or Edmund WARNER.

Banns at Grimstone 8, 15 and 28 Mar 1846 Elizabeth MOORE Spinster of Grimstone, John BONE bachelor of Grimstone
Marriage took place on 28 March, Bride and groom of full age, John’s a Labourer, his father Risborough BONE a Labourer, Elizabeth’s father William MOORE a shepherd. Witnesses William NEALE, Elissa MOORE, and Mary Ann MOORE.. The MOORE girls all signed.

1851 census, Field Barn, Grimstone, NFK
John BONE Head Mar 28 Ag Lab NFK Grimstone
Elizabeth do Wife Mar 28 NFK do
Elijah do son 7 Scholar NFK do
Susanna do daur 4 NFK do
Ellen do saur 2 NFK do
Raisbuey do son 10mo NFK do

Using the GRO for the birth of Elijah
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
I could not find a birth for Elijah but did find this
Birth q2 1850 Raysbra BONE mmn MOORE Freebridge Lynn 13 158
Ellena’s birth q3 1848 and Susanna’s in q3 1846

I’ve concentrated on Elizabeth having been advised by PM that this is the line of EA69 and I thought it worth checking - given the earlier wild goose chase about Cristopher and Charles. We’ve all got it wrong occasionally.

’I am told Elizabeth and John BONE also went to Australia. Seems to have been a lot of Ag Labs leaving East Anglia during the 1800s. My G Gad moved from Suffolk to North Yorkshire and his dad’s cousin went to Canada. It was a DNA match to the Canada man’s family that proved that my illegitimate Gran’s step dad was actually her dad.

[Spelk]

I see there is a probate record 1883 for Griffin Laws of East Winch. Executor is a William Laws.
Just a chance that Griffin may have mentioned in his Will something about his siblings in Australia.
Assuming that we have not got it wrong again.
I have not had any luck in figuring out where and when Sarah Hearn who married Griffin Laws the elder was born.
Probably time I did something more useful.

Added - according to a newspaper item Griffin was a Mole Catcher so probably had little money.

[rosie99]

Probably time I did something more useful.

That did make me chuckle,  it is just what I have been telling myself since being on here for much of the afternoon

[EA69]

WikiTree offers an opportunity to very accurately identify people, after which their biography can be improved by any members with appropriate knowledge. The original question was about CHARLES not Christopher LAWS. Apologies for the error - ‘senior moment’ is the best excuse I can offer.

So for any WikiTree users, the question can be expressed as ‘Did Laws-1750 marry HORTH-114’, source apparently ENGLAND MARRIAGES 1538-1973.
Downstream people are Mary Laws-1749 (my GGGgrandmother) married Moore-100433; her daughter Elizabeth Moore-73671 married John Bone-2487 and emigrated to NSW, Australia about 1865 with a large family.

On the subject of time wasting, in the few days since I joined RootsChat I have inadvertently created 2 profiles EA69 and ALAN69, with no prospect of merging them; I have chats under both names but can’t determine which one I’m accessing; I don’t know if I’m in public or private chat mode; and am continuously getting incorrect password messages to which I reset to exactly the same password each time. I don’t know if I can delete both profiles (and loose all associated chats) and start over. Thanks to all those who have contributed over this short period, but I may never find this chat again.

[Spelk]

Hi Alan, I had not noticed that you were new to Rootschat. Belated welcome.
You should get an email telling you that this post has been made to this board unless you have clicked the "un-notify button.
Click on the link of the email and it should bring you back here. However that may bring you back as a guest or as a user.
When looking at a forum discussion you will be looking a s screen as attached. Look at the top left of the attached (above the pretty banner) and you will see the words "Hi Spelk" which tells me that I am logged in as Spelk. Your will have the name of whatever you are logged in as or if not you could be using as a guest.
Further along you can see that there is a button to "Log Out". I suggest you log out of the account you no longer want and if you cannot close it then just never log in again. to that account. A moderator might help you close it.
Changing the name which people see you as does not require a new account. You can change your public name independent of your account log in details. I have had two or three different names over the years. Note that changing a public name is not recommended as this can confuse people as to who you are so try to stick with a name.
I am unclear what the problem with your passwords is. Better put the question on the Technical Help board. It could be that you are being asked for a new password and where it is failing is that you are giving it the old password.
I'll send another note about what the Message (the private message board looks like.
I'm assuming you are using a computer or at least a tablet. I would not try to use Rootschat on my little phone screen if I could avoid it.
You mentioned looking at your family on Wikitree which I gather is altered by anyone. That way lies madness. Some people providing inputs to th tree may be very careful and accurate but you can be sure that there will be some people adding people to families with scant regard to whether it is right or not. They had the same thing with the original IGI which was put together by the LDS (Mormons). The work they did transcribing old parish records of baptisms and marriages and distributing them on microfiche was a great asset for people like me doing family research back in the day last century.
However they also let members submit information about farming connections with nothing more than guesses and family tales. The IGI shows my grandmother as being born in Middlesbrough and her mother being born in Malton. It was actual the other way around as I know from their birth certificates. I asked to view the source information and saw it was input on a form written by a distant cousin who was mormon and a police officer. No comments about the police falsifying evidence please.

You tree should be something under your control. Many programs available for keeping the tree on your devices or even online. Use suggestions from others as hints but do not take any facts for granted unless you know where it came from. Even when you get a certificate for birth death to marriage they can be wrong.

Enough for now -we have plumbing problem.

[Spelk]

Attached is a copy of the MESSAGES screen as you can tell by the highlighted "MY MESSAGES" in the black banner.
Note that these screenshots have been reduced in size as the original files at 1.5 MB would not be allowed.
Plumbing issue seems to have gone away.

Regarding the parents of Mary LAWS who married John
 edit - William MOORE, Ignore what Wikitree people say. The census records give her birth year (might be inaccurate but not by much) and it is in the tiny village of East Winch in Norfolk. The only possible baptism I have found is that where parents are Griffin LAWS and his wife Sarah. Any discussions about a man called Charles LAWS who lived in Norwich seem pointless

[Spelk]

Alan,
I do not normally use Familysearch as although free I find Findmypast or Ancestry easier for census lookups. However Rootschat is not in favour of us providing lookups from paid for sites which are not freely available elsewhere.
So I had a look for Mary MOORE nee LAWS on Familysearch.
In 1861 census for Royston I noticed that they had with them  a 10 year old grandson called in the transcript Hatbery BONE.
That is the Raisbury BONE baptised in 1850 to John and Elizabeth (nee MOORE). As I remember from the stuff above Raisbury was the name of the father of JOHN BONE so that proves the links with between Elizabeth BONE nee MOORE and William MOORE and Mary nee LAWS.

This is all paper trail of course and DNA can always ruin these "facts".

[EA69]

Thanks for your reply and the longer reply on more LAWS profiles you also sent. I regret I am no further ahead with using RootsChat, so I am still stuck in PRIVATE mode and in BEGINNER mode.
In my experience, the only unequivocal way to identify a person is in WikiTree, which gives each person a unique identifier, but I suspect Family Search does the same. If you can access WikiTree and enter Laws-1749 in the search box, my problem is that her parents are incorrect. Charles and Elizabeth (Laws-1750 and Horth-114) had a daughter Mary (actually Mary Ann; Laws-1749) but she married Robert Paraman, not William (Moore-100433). So I need a different Mary as the wife of Moore-100433. Her surname and parents unknown but Griffin and Sarah LAWS are possibilities ?.

William and Mary Moore had a daughter Elizabeth (Moore-73671) who was my GG grandmother and her grandson in Australia was Raisbra Moore Bone. Our family think Raisbra is the correct spelling, and has been handed down several generations but it has many variants on different web sites.