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Re: Does "officer meal" in Kirk Session Accts. refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 19 September 25 22:11 BST (UK) »
Post #4, can you advise which page it was, the snip you sent is a bit heard to read out of contect.

I think it is Alex Gordon and Mill Fanner, not Farmer.
Yes, of course, it's image 14. Many thanks!

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Re: Does "officer meal" in Kirk Session Accts. refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 19 September 25 22:26 BST (UK) »
This may be of use. https://dsl.ac.uk/entry/snd/officer
Many thanks, that makes "officer meal" much clearer.
What still puzzles me is why the entry sits in the kirk session accounts. Three possibilities occur to me:
1. "Officer meal" here is simply the parish/kirk officer’s stipend in meal, unrelated to the estate role—i.e. the same man holding two offices;
2. The session clerk was also acting locally as a disbursing agent for estate/baron-court expenses; or
3. The volume is a hybrid, mixing session entries with heritors/stent/cess bookkeeping.

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Re: Does "officer meal" in Kirk Session Accts. refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 19 September 25 22:56 BST (UK) »
Reading through this looks like the personal accounts of the minister, not strictly Kirk session minutes, miss indexing? References to the boys and my sister suggests this. It does not look like other Kirk session minutes I have read.
Nicoll, Small - Scotland Dennis - Lincolnshire, Baldwin - Notts. Gordon, Fletcher Deeside

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Re: Does "officer meal" in Kirk Session Accts. refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 19 September 25 23:24 BST (UK) »
Reading through this looks like the personal accounts of the minister, not strictly Kirk session minutes, miss indexing? References to the boys and my sister suggests this. It does not look like other Kirk session minutes I have read.
That’s a very interesting observation, thanks. For Kildrummy there are three volumes online: two are Kirk Session minutes, and one (this one) is the accounts. On page 1 of this accounts volume it’s explicitly headed "Day Book".


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Re: Does "officer meal" in Kirk Session Accts. refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 20 September 25 09:08 BST (UK) »
 On page 1 of this accounts volume it’s explicitly headed "Day Book".
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Ministers often kept notebooks recording day-to-day parish business. Relevant bits would be written up in the Session minutes and accounts.

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Re: Does "officer meal" in Kirk Session Accts. refer to ground officer’s allowance?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 21 September 25 09:12 BST (UK) »
Perhaps it is just that this particular person held both the post of ground officer and Kirk officer (i.e. beadle)? I don't think it's necessarily the case that one person always held both positions.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.