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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #18 on: Friday 19 September 25 11:16 BST (UK) »
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Are the non-Catholic records even available
Some are, some arent.

They were a Church of Ireland marriages 1874 at St John's Laganbank (since demolished). Those that are online are on RootsIReland (not Ancestry or Findmypast) for both the Co Antrim & Ballymacarrett (Down) sides of Belfast. eg St Annes is all indexed, Christ Church is not. Some were lost forever 1922 in PRO Dublin others are accessible only via microfilm in PRONI, Belfast.

Refer to https://nidirect.gov.uk/publications/guide-church-records for what exists
St John's Laganbank was only consecrated 1853. Thomas Hutton was 20, James 21 or older and their father was dead.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/ANT/Belfast/StJohnCoI
List of the churches in Belfast 1852 https://streetdirectories.proni.gov.uk/media/TolCCNHougUrdeGa9IrJEA..a

To find siblings brouse Hutton marriage images, search, open and look at the father as others have been doing.

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #19 on: Friday 19 September 25 12:06 BST (UK) »
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Are the non-Catholic records even available
Some are, some arent.

They were a Church of Ireland marriages 1874 at St John's Laganbank (since demolished). Those that are online are on RootsIReland (not Ancestry or Findmypast) for both the Co Antrim & Ballymacarrett (Down) sides of Belfast. eg St Annes is all indexed, Christ Church is not. Some were lost forever 1922 in PRO Dublin others are accessible only via microfilm in PRONI, Belfast.

Refer to https://nidirect.gov.uk/publications/guide-church-records for what exists
St John's Laganbank was only consecrated 1853. Thomas Hutton was 20, James 21 or older and their father was dead.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/irl/ANT/Belfast/StJohnCoI
List of the churches in Belfast 1852 https://streetdirectories.proni.gov.uk/media/TolCCNHougUrdeGa9IrJEA..a

To find siblings brouse Hutton marriage images, search, open and look at the father as others have been doing.

Thanks for that info, it will be very useful. I thought I read that there were two churches called St John’s in Belfast but I can see 3 on one of those links. Is St John’s Laganbank that you mention the one that says St John the Baptist, Upper Falls (Connor Diocese) or St John’s, Malone (Connor Diocese) (or even St John the evangelist, Orangefield)? And how do I tell from the civil marriage entry which one it is?
And are you saying browse RootsIreland or somewhere else like irishgenealogy.ie?

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #20 on: Friday 19 September 25 14:03 BST (UK) »
Any connection?
11 April 1854, Belfast
William Crosberry, 20, father Thomas Crosberry + Margaret Ann Hutton, 18, father John Hutton, Carter
witnessed by John Hutton, Margaret Ann Hutton
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09464/5429518.pdf

23 September 1863, Belfast
John Alex Croskerry, Full, father Thomas Crosberry, + Sarah Hutton, Full, father John Hutton, Carter
witnessed by Margaret Hutton, John Collins
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1863/09644/5497799.pdf

Were William and John brothers?



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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #21 on: Friday 19 September 25 14:17 BST (UK) »
It was Laganbank located per the genuki link as says in the Town of Belfast rather than in the Parish of Malone or Parish of Upper Falls which the others do and the first sod was cut for construction of Orangefield 29 July 1955 & named after St John's Laganbank which had been demolished 1943.

Mays Fields was St John's in the earliest list by Mays Market & the river before May Street and Oxford Street etc were fully constructed. That area was where Annette Street was if refer to he street Directories.
Annette Street (Verner Street to Turnley Street). Verner Street (May Street to Murphy Street).
Was directly opposite St George's Market https://maps.app.goo.gl/r2VMwRc8vXMM2Afo6
use PRONI's old maps https://nidirect.gov.uk/services/search-proni-historical-maps-viewer

I'm saying search irishgen for Hutton marriages and open the pdf images and read the father's name and occupation. RootsIreland has the father's fornames indexed I think but you need a sub and still need to conult the actual irishgen images. In England you would use the census for siblings that option is not available so you have to use things a different way to elsewhere and all the civil BMD records are online for free up to 1922. Longwinded sometimes have to open 20 or 50 tabs depending on the surname.


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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #22 on: Friday 19 September 25 14:26 BST (UK) »
And we also have this one
6 April 1861, Belfast
James D Croskery, 21, Carter, father Thomas Croskery + Margaret Ann Hutton, 20, father Richard Hutton, Carter
witnessed by William H Potts, Mary Cunningham
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09604/5482784.pdf

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #23 on: Friday 19 September 25 14:30 BST (UK) »
I'm saying search irishgen for Hutton marriages and open the pdf images and read the father's name and occupation.

Not sure now how far they go up to, but searching the indexes/partial transcriptions on FS first can help - search for father John Hutton
i.e. Sarah and John Alexander here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGCP-Z13

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #24 on: Friday 19 September 25 14:43 BST (UK) »
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Not sure now how far they go up to
Good point, but only go to 1870 inputting the microfilm number hidden under Document Information in your link into their catalogue https://familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/koha:453112
Marriage records, 1845-1870, with indexes to marriages, 1845-1921, in the General Registry Office of Ireland

Possibly easier to use Ancestry's search functions of the same Familysearch dataset https://ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/9904

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #25 on: Friday 19 September 25 19:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the info everyone, I have lots to go on and I have learned a lot. Can anyone tell me what the father Richard Hutton's occupation is here for the marriage of William John Hutton and Sarah Jane Hanna? Is it Carowner? https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10731/5912504.pdf

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #26 on: Friday 19 September 25 19:58 BST (UK) »

It's Carowner (Car Owner)


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