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Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« on: Thursday 18 September 25 22:33 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me trace the parents & siblings of James and Thomas Hutton in Northern Ireland? They both married at St John’s in Belfast in 1874. James married Jane Black and Thomas married Elizabeth Black. Their father is John, a Car Driver. I think I found Thomas in 1901 and he is recorded as a Methodist but I’m struggling to find any of their siblings and James in the census, although his wife & children appear to be in Cuba Street, Victoria, Down and are Presbyterian. I have found their children & deaths but can’t go any further back. Are the non-Catholic records even available? I’d like to know more about their wives families too.

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 September 25 23:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: goatfish77 on Thursday 18 September 25 22:33 BST (UK)
I have found their children & deaths but can’t go any further back.

Please post names of children and dates and places of births. Also post information on deaths you have.

The marriage records for both James and Thomas show they were Church of Ireland, and their father John was deceased by 1874.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 September 25 23:26 BST (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 September 25 23:36 BST (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 September 25 01:18 BST (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 September 25 07:49 BST (UK) »
At marriage, Thomas gave his address as 9 Annette Street. There was a William Hutton, a carter, at 9 Annette Street in the 1870 directory. In 1871, the Town Improvement committee, approved plans for [work on?] a house in Annette Street for a William Hutton. In 1876, a young man named Hutton (no forename mentioned), of Annette Street was rescued alive following an incident caused by a fire at a grain store and other commercial premises.
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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 September 25 08:02 BST (UK) »
The death on July 10th  1879, of a Roseanna Hutton, aged 44, of 9 Annette Street is noted in the Belfast Morning News.

She was the wife of William Hutton, a carter, according to her death certificate:

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=0c9e5f72a2-6100438
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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 September 25 08:03 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Friday 19 September 25 01:18 BST (UK)
Eliza Hutton died in 1892 (3 Cuba Street)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06049/4723770.pdf

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Thomas Hutton had a 2nd marriage in 1895 to Maggie Scullen (nee McSevenny)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10513/5829276.pdf


This is Thomas Hutton and family in 1901 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Scotch_Row/1219293/


Thomas Hutton died in 1906
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05556/4559372.pdf

That’s excellent, thanks. I had not found Thomas’s second marriage. It also helped confirm a possible sister to these brothers called Eliza as she & her second husband Robert Magee (1st was Richard Letson) are witnesses to that second marriage!

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Re: Hutton family Belfast in 1850-1870’s
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 September 25 08:15 BST (UK) »
Rose Ann/Roseanna was buried at the City Cemetery. There are others in the plot, including non Hutton surnames. Of the Hutton surname, there was a Richard Hutton of 4 Tierney Street, aged 34 when he died on 16th August 1877 and a Richard Henry Hutton, of 17 Northbrook Gardens, aged 46 Years, when he died on 12 January 1947.

The death notice in newspaper for Richard Hutton of the 1877 death, mentioned members of 598 L.O.L. and 20 Royal Black Perceptory were required to attend the funeral. His 'Orange Funeral' (story headline), was later mentioned in the Belfast Evening Telegraph.

The 1947 funeral of the other Richard, also involved representatives from Orange and Black Lodges, as well as bowling clubs  and the Belfast  Corporation Gas Department. Mention of two brothers and a brother-in-law.

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