Looking for migration to Australia Thomas Henry Howard

[cupoflife]

Emily BIRCH https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11285006
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/244246454/emily-birch
Charles Samuel BIRCH https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/244166638/charles-samuel-birch

[janjim]

Cass, Thanks so much for this, yes that is our man, also his wife.   I am so sorry I have not been able to get on to Rootschat, to reply yesterday afternoon.   For some reason or other, the website would not allow me to send any replies.    Frustrating to say the least.

Jan

I wonder if this is him.

 Find A Grave

Thomas H Howard
Birth   1851   Death   24 Feb 1927 (aged 75–76)
Burial Melbourne General Cemetery Parkville, City of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Plot MGC-COE-Comp-VS-No-289S

and this may be Emily

Emily Howard
Birth   1847    Death   21 Sep 1922 (aged 74–75)
Burial Melbourne General Cemetery   Parkville, City of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Plot   MGC-COE-Comp-VS-No-289S

Regards Cass

Ps Funeral / death Notice for Thomas
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204198781?searchTerm=howard
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204198679?

and emily
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1845158

[janjim]

Thanks cup of life, I do apologise for no reply yesterday, so much trouble getting back on to website to reply to all that information.      So that's interesting who the Father is, Ralph Harris Davis, maybe he was adopted,  seems odd.

At the end of the day though, still cannot find any immigration records.   He married in Norwood South Australia though.

Vic bdm death:
2486 / 1927 HOWARD Thomas Henry; age 76; Mother- ; Father-DAVIS Ralph Harris ; Place of death: Melbourne East

[janjim]

[maddys52, once again I am sorry i've not been able to reply to your posting, trouble getting on to the website.
Yes, this could be possible, but looking at some other information regarding Ralph Harris Davis as possibly being the Father (shown on death records), just don't know.  If that was so, he must have been adopted.

Still cannot find any immigration records either.   Very strange.

Jan
quote author=maddys52 link=topic=893945.msg7682299#msg7682299 date=1758179941]

this a complete stab in the dark

on the wills found by Cupoflife there is a daughter named Eliza (maybe named after a grandmother)

I have been looking FAG SA Cemeteries, there is a grave at Cheltenham Cemetery for

Eliza Howard
Birth unknown   Death   1 Oct 1905 Burial  Cheltenham Cemetery
Cheltenham, City of Charles Sturt, South Australia, Australia   Plot H

in the same Cemetery in same plot

William Howard
Birth  unknown  Death   1 Oct 1885
Burial   Cheltenham Cemetery
Cheltenham, City of Charles Sturt, South Australia, Australia Plot   H

As I said a complete stab in the dark. but maybe Thomas parents
cass

I did look at Bermondsey in the 1841 census and there is this family with parents William and Eliza HOWARD (all born in county) at Alfred Place:

William HOWARD   41   waterman
Eliza                          35
Elizabeth                    9
Eliza                            5
Emma                        4
William (unclear?)   2
Thomas                     11m

HO107/1047/2/48 pg 8&9

However, Thomas HOWARD is a common name.
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[maddys52]

The marriage certificate is likely to have more accurate information about parents' names as this information is given directly. The death certificate is only as accurate as the informant knows. South Australian marriage certificates in 1874 should show father's names.

You have probably seen the marriage notice?
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/208170981

[maddys52]

Will and Probate Thomas H Howard; Residence : Fitzroy; Occupation : Commission Agent
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/898B4AB8-F565-11E9-AE98-05DB6CA9D443?image=2
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/B76D522B-F1F4-11E9-AE98-791E9F8F3522?image=16

Just to note that in 1903, 1905, 1908, 1913, 1919 and 1922 Thomas Henry HOWARD (and Emily HOWARD) are at 46 Moor St, Fitzroy on the electoral roll. Thomas is an upholster.

[sparrett]

Just further to Cass' reply #15 .
William and Eliza HOWARD. Not looking likely related
From BISA.
Sue

[janjim]

Thanks Sparrett for that information.
Jan

[janjim]

Yes thank you Maddys, looks like we need to get a copy of the marriage certificate.  Thanks for copy of marriage notice.   No I hadn't seen that one.
Jan

The marriage certificate is likely to have more accurate information about parents' names as this information is given directly. The death certificate is only as accurate as the informant knows. South Australian marriage certificates in 1874 should show father's names.

You have probably seen the marriage notice?
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/208170981