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William James Turner, Herefordshire
« on: Wednesday 17 September 25 15:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm stuck trying to find the parents of William James Turner born in 1845 Herefordshire.

I found his marriage record that states his father was called William James Turner who was a "baker"
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/45170124?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a226c30732f626a38464b323742346e71356b37784d6876575774626a6446676a6b38303666794366664158733d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

I've had a older relative who did a DNA test and one of the results was a Ancestry estimate of 3rd cousin 1 removed or 4th cousin.
Their ancestor was Charlotte Turner born in Byford Herefordshire, married to Edwin Harris

In the 1861 census, there is a James Turner of similar age present at the address as a lodger but maybe I am under the assumption it could be her brother
  https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/45170290?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a2251313632305a502f46577669754e2b6b616d6e48774f454a694c42724f3443616f4c5a4630687276432f303d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

I've tried searching for Charlotte to see if there is any links but i can't find any records on Ancestry or Familysearch apart from the 1861 and 1871 census.

Thanks for any help

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Re: William James Turner, Herefordshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 15:32 BST (UK) »
Just adding more details  :)

In 1881 'James Turner' has place of birth as Herefordshire N.K. (not known) and his age as 37.

The James Turner you link to in 1861 gives a place of birth as Bishopston, Herefordshire age 17
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Re: William James Turner, Herefordshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 15:55 BST (UK) »
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Their ancestor was Charlotte Turner born in Byford Herefordshire, married to Edwin Harris

When was she born and who was her father when she married? 

Have you looked for birth registrations for William James Turner c1845 in the relevant district? 
I appreciate those are common names.
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Re: William James Turner, Herefordshire
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 16:56 BST (UK) »
The same James Turner as you have in 1861  :-\

1851 Weobley
James Turner
Age 7
Birth place Bishopston, Herefordshire
HO107 / 1979
Folio 142
Page 2
Occupation Pauper scholar in house
Full address Union Workhouse, Weobley, Herefordshire, England

also mentioned on the page immediately following his entry
Emma Turner 14
Elizabeth Turner 20
Charles Turner 21
all born Bishopston
also Margaret B Turner age 6 months bn Weobley Workhouse

Birth registration of Margaret B Turner
TURNER, MARGARET  BLANCH     - 
GRO Reference: 1850  Dec Quarter in OF WEOBLEY  Volume 26  Page 253
ADDED
Baptism at Weobley 17 Nov 1850 - mother Charlotte Turner
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Re: William James Turner, Herefordshire
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 17:05 BST (UK) »
Baptism at Bishopstone 01 Oct 1843 - James Turner - mother Catherine Turner (No father mentioned)

Baptism at Bishopstone 02 Jan 1820 - Elizabeth Turner -mother Harriet Turner (No father mentioned)
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Re: William James Turner, Herefordshire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 17:15 BST (UK) »
Baptism at Byford for a Charlotte Turner - 13 Jan 1828 - mother Catherine Turner -no father mentioned.

1841 There is a Charlotte Turner  age 14 who would fit this baptism living Bishopstone
William   Turner   80   
Katherine   Turner   35   
Charlotte   Turner   14   
Letitia   Turner   10   
Milbrow   Turner   8   
Emma   Turner   6
Elizabeth   Turner   1   

HO107
Piece  422
Book  1
Folio  5
Page  9

Possible baptism at Bishopstone for Catherine/Katherine Turner 26 Apr 1807 parents William and Elizabeth
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Re: William James Turner, Herefordshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 22:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the help, when it comes understanding DNA test results, I'm quite a novice.

When I searched in the AncestryDNA search filter. it was Turner and Herefordshire but maybe I'm going on the assumption but it could just coincidence.


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Re: William James Turner, Herefordshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 22:41 BST (UK) »
Just adding more details  :)

In 1881 'James Turner' has place of birth as Herefordshire N.K. (not known) and his age as 37.

The James Turner you link to in 1861 gives a place of birth as Bishopston, Herefordshire age 17

I'm not 100% sure if that James is the ancestor but i'm going by an assumption it that is, however every census record after 1871 just stays Herefordshire and no other place such as parish , town or city

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/45188314?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a2274437977632f4e3272374f4e51365061527549335248616a5766453578536179507030617533707a3835453d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d