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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 September 25 10:48 BST (UK) »
I'm  not sure why you think the child was illegitimate? The GRO index clearly says the mmn was AIKMAN. It was common for multiple childen to be given the mother's maiden name as a middle name.

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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 18 September 25 11:01 BST (UK) »
 I didn't understand the relevance of that.

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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 September 25 11:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I was looking at the GRO reference you gave (though it is 10a/799, not 10a/789) and it has mother's maiden name as AIKMAN. Usually if a child is illegitimate it will not have a mmn given on the index.

Just looking further, I see that the other children in the family have mmn CROOKSTON, hence the confusion over Eliza Ellen's birth.

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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 18 September 25 11:37 BST (UK) »
Local indexes
Year 1889   
Name WHITWORTH, Eliza Ellen   
District SS/Jarrow.A   
Register 114   
Entry 2

Perhaps if you got a digital image of the birth entry (3) below from the GRO it would have the missing part on it? :-\

Year 1889
Name NICHOLSON, William Burton   
District SS/Jarrow.A   
Register 114   
Entry 3

Probably a crazy idea.


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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:24 BST (UK) »
I assume she was illegitimate as the father's name is the father of the other children in the house, which I very much hope wasn't the case.  I can't find any connection to AIKMAN.  And why give the name to just one?  It's so odd.

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I'm  not sure why you think the child was illegitimate? The GRO index clearly says the mmn was AIKMAN. It was common for multiple childen to be given the mother's maiden name as a middle name.

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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:26 BST (UK) »
I have wondered about getting the next record.  How did you get that data?  I'll wait and see what GRO suggest.  If they offer me a  refund, I'll probably do that.

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Local indexes
Year 1889   
Name WHITWORTH, Eliza Ellen   
District SS/Jarrow.A   
Register 114   
Entry 2

Perhaps if you got a digital image of the birth entry (3) below from the GRO it would have the missing part on it? :-\

Year 1889
Name NICHOLSON, William Burton   
District SS/Jarrow.A   
Register 114   
Entry 3

Probably a crazy idea.

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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:28 BST (UK) »
Maddy, could you clarify the 789/799 change?  The GRO data says 789.

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Sorry, I was looking at the GRO reference you gave (though it is 10a/799, not 10a/789) and it has mother's maiden name as AIKMAN. Usually if a child is illegitimate it will not have a mmn given on the index.

Just looking further, I see that the other children in the family have mmn CROOKSTON, hence the confusion over Eliza Ellen's birth.

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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:34 BST (UK) »
That info came from the indexes on the South Tyneside website
https://www.southtyneside.gov.uk/article/3044/Search-historical-births-deaths-and-marriage-records

Where Isabel Smart is indeed entry 1 in register 114

Interestingly some of the others in Sep 1889 with the GRO ref 10a 799 are from the previous local register, i.e. Charlotte Louise Leuliette (lovely name) is from register 113, no. 500. Hers must be the last entry from that register. Fascinating!

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Re: Part of my GRO birth record is missing
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 18 September 25 12:53 BST (UK) »
Jonwarrn, I didn't know of that resource. 

Zaph