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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #27 on: Today at 00:02 »
Wow! That a lot to digest, thanks everyone for all that research! Nothing like a good scandal, eh? ;D
It'll take me a few days to go through all of these links, thank you all   :)

The censuses I've found for Peter Allan (1841, '51, '61, '71, '81 (he d. between '81 & '91)) have him married to Margaret Cowe/Allan. She got 6-7 years knocked off her age for the '41 census, but reinstated for the later ones. He is variously listed as a house painter and house painter & musician, and parish entries have him as a painter. Margaret's last census has her listed as a dancing masters widow.

Peter Allan's b. place is listed as  Ordiquhill, Banffshire, Scotland.

Thank you Neale1961 for the word "compeared", it was driving me nuts seeing this word over and over again in the kirk sessions and not knowing what it was  ;D and thanks for William Howitt's fate. I couldn't find him in Edinburgh in the '61 '71 censuses, thanks for tracking him down - did he ever really reside in James Square Edinburgh??

Thanks again everyone, there's so much more now in that corner of my tree!  :) :)
HAY - Aberdeen, Shetland, etc.
LEE - Todmorden, etc.
BELSHAW - Farnworth, Bolton, Wigan, Manchester, Todmorden, etc.
ALLINSON - Pontefract, Leeds, etc.
UPWARD - Isle of Wight

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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #28 on: Today at 00:08 »
Death for Peter Allan (age 73) in 1883, Turriff
Mother’s maiden name - Taylor


Baptism

PETER ALLAN
10/12/1810
ORDIQUHILL
Parents - CHARLES ALLAN / MARY TAYLOR FR266 (FR266)

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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #29 on: Today at 09:10 »
Banffshire Journal 29, May, 1883.

 Turriff

" By the death of Mr Peter Allan, house painter, on Friday, there has passed away one who enjoyed a local reputation as a fine violin player of old Scotch and dance music, and who was a very successful teacher of dancing throughout the district".

His death would, therefore, have been on 25, May, 1883.

William

Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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« Reply #30 on: Today at 11:17 »
Thank you everyone  :). I found his b. and d. last night (ok, very early this morning, you know how these rabbit holes go lol, which is why I hadn't posted them here, figured I should get some sleep!), but hadn't seen the article., thanks for that, that's lovely :).  There was another contender but the d. entry confirmed this is the right one. d. registered as being 6pm-ish on the 24th.  No profession given for his father. d. of pneumonia ([something]) 14 days, registered by son Alexander (not present)
HAY - Aberdeen, Shetland, etc.
LEE - Todmorden, etc.
BELSHAW - Farnworth, Bolton, Wigan, Manchester, Todmorden, etc.
ALLINSON - Pontefract, Leeds, etc.
UPWARD - Isle of Wight


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« Reply #31 on: Today at 13:04 »
Marriage for Charles Allan and Mary Taylor (from Freereg)

Ordiquhill
27 May 1810
A note states " No proclamations were used as Charles Allan was a military man".

The next year July 20th, 1811 in the Ordiquhill Kirk Session minutes we have this " Compeared ( that word again!) Chs, Allan and his wife Mary Taylor and confessed that they had been guilty of antenuptial fornication". They had to pay up to be absolved! ( It is image number 29 in the Ordiquhill Minutes).

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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« Reply #32 on: Today at 14:53 »
wow good find! you must  have the patience of a saint to go through these records (or a very good index ;D)
So my trying to read that entry:
July 20th ? ? - Compeared Chs. Allan in Cornhill and his wife Mary Taylor ? confessed that they had ? ? guilty of Antenuptial Fornication. They ? that they might be ? absolved. The ? agreed to their request upon them paying six shillings and eight pence ? to the ?. This they immediately complied with and they were accordingly suitably exhorted, rebuked and absolved. Closed etc.
HAY - Aberdeen, Shetland, etc.
LEE - Todmorden, etc.
BELSHAW - Farnworth, Bolton, Wigan, Manchester, Todmorden, etc.
ALLINSON - Pontefract, Leeds, etc.
UPWARD - Isle of Wight

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« Reply #33 on: Today at 16:15 »
If you have FindMyPast the record set, Scotland , People of Banffshire and Moray can be searched . It is in part  a digest of some of the Kirk Session records. I found this record by simply searching the surname Allan in Ordiquhill and so knew where to look in SP.

Some of the missing words might be "been", "sessionally", "session" and " to the poor". Possibly "craved" or "avowed" before that they might be. Hopefully someone more expert will come along!

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)