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Scottish birth and bapism
« on: Wednesday 17 September 25 10:28 BST (UK) »
Well, this is interesting, I can't get all of this so I've included more than is needed in the image to give a feel for the handwriting. The entry I'm interested in is the baptism of Margaret Allan, dau. of Peter Allan and Margaret ?? (top right of the image).

Here's what I've guessed - corrections/suggestions most welcome:

1844 March
Allan & ?
Peter Allan & ? ? - his wife - (?
?) had a Daughter - born 29th April
1843 - baptised 22 March 1844 - & named
Margaret = (the father being ?under church can
?send the mother alone was ?)

I'm guessing "under church" means he was in trouble for something? If this is so, what sort of misdeeds could he have done?
Any help filling in blanks or correcting mistakes most welcome. Particularly unsure about the mother's maiden name - seen various transcriptions of it, none of which I'm sure about. Not helped by not having found their marriage.
HAY - Aberdeen, Shetland, etc.
LEE - Todmorden, etc.
BELSHAW - Farnworth, Bolton, Wigan, Manchester, Todmorden, etc.
ALLINSON - Pontefract, Leeds, etc.
UPWARD - Isle of Wight

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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 10:38 BST (UK) »
Mother's name looks like Margaret (Mt) COWE

Last line - "the mother alone was sponsor" ?
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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 10:49 BST (UK) »
F/S has siblings David/Alexander/Barbara with all as Mother Margaret Cowe.
FreeREG has Cowie

Cant see Marriage either on line.
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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 11:20 BST (UK) »
Margarets Death Cert would be a help.
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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 11:47 BST (UK) »
Quote from: trish1120 on Wednesday 17 September 25 10:49 BST (UK)
F/S has siblings David/Alexander/Barbara with all as Mother Margaret Cowe.
FreeREG has Cowie

Cant see Marriage either on line.

Sorry Trish - what does F/S mean? thanks
HAY - Aberdeen, Shetland, etc.
LEE - Todmorden, etc.
BELSHAW - Farnworth, Bolton, Wigan, Manchester, Todmorden, etc.
ALLINSON - Pontefract, Leeds, etc.
UPWARD - Isle of Wight

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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 11:58 BST (UK) »
F/S is Familysearch.

Could it be the place name 'Aberchirder' in first set of brackets?

Could it be 'consent' rather than 'can send'? There was a tendency to carry words onto subsequent line.

I wonder if it was indicating an irregular marriage, perhaps.
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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 12:17 BST (UK) »
It might be worth checking this death, to rule it in or out:

ALLAN
MARGARET
81
MCINTOSH
F
1893
247 / 33
Turriff

COWE
MARGARET
81
MCINTOSH
F
1893
247 / 33
Turriff

as registered under both Allan and Cowe.
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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 12:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks scotmum for replying.

Apologies I forget that not every one know about Familysearch.Org
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Re: Scottish birth and bapism
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 13:29 BST (UK) »
Banffshire has good coverage on Freereg (and Freecen). Here is the transcription that they have ( which I think you have already seen):

Place Marnoch
Birth 29 Apr 1843
Baptism 22 Mar 1844
Father Peter Allan
Mother Margaret Cowie
Abode Aberchirder
Father Occupation Painter
Witnesses James Reid and Elizabeth Gallon Registered 31 Dec 1855

This last line suggests a different/further entry in the parish register to the one posted . I think it would be worth looking at the Kirk Session Records.

The 1851 census transcripts that I can see have mother Margaret recorded as Margaret Cow. Might be worth viewing the original if you have not already done so.

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