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Offline BillyF

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Sad listings.
« on: Tuesday 16 September 25 22:43 BST (UK) »
Recently I was searching censuses and came across something  that to me seemed really sad.

There were 2 entries for people in a barn in Sussex.

The first one was for an Eliza Chaplin, plus 2 children ( I didn`t make a note).

The second was just Man,Woman and 2 boys; no names but a comment "supposed to come from Dover".

I suspect that they will be a brickwall for someone. It just made me feel as if they were just cast aside.

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Re: Sad listings.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 08:58 BST (UK) »
Many years ago I came across two very sad entries in some Parish Records (I wish I had made a note of the Parish and when), in the baptisms a  girl  named Not Wanted, then shortly afterwards her burial.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Sad listings.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 09:16 BST (UK) »
Recently I was searching censuses and came across something  that to me seemed really sad.

There were 2 entries for people in a barn in Sussex.

The first one was for an Eliza Chaplin, plus 2 children ( I didn`t make a note).

The second was just Man,Woman and 2 boys; no names but a comment "supposed to come from Dover".

I suspect that they will be a brickwall for someone. It just made me feel as if they were just cast aside.

They could have been staying a few nights during the course of a journey.  Travelling by foot was common for many
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 09:26 BST (UK) »
From our parish register in the plague year of 1597: May 26th a poor tall woman who died at Berrier and none knew her name nor whence she came.
And the famine year of 1623: 13th January a poor beggar young girl born in Plumpton; she was found dead in Stork's house.
Simons Barrett Jaffray Waugh Langdale Heugh Meade Garnsey Evans Vazie Mountcure Glascodine Parish Peard Smart Dobbie Sinclair....
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 09:36 BST (UK) »
In the 1851 census I found an Irishman spent the night "laid in stable" at a farm in Howden, Yorkshire, but not apparently part of the household.  Only a surname, Pushman, and uncertain age, "about 23".  I suspect he was in England because of the Irish famine.  I hope he succeeded in life.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 09:46 BST (UK) »
https://achilltourism.com/experience-achill/history/kirkintilloch-fire-disaster/

This link tells of the most unfortunate disaster of farm labourers in Scotland, who had been sleeping in a stone barn. This occurred in --1937-- 

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 13:24 BST (UK) »
Many years ago I came across two very sad entries in some Parish Records (I wish I had made a note of the Parish and when), in the baptisms a  girl  named Not Wanted, then shortly afterwards her burial.
I wonder if the girls name "not wanted" really meant that the name was not required as she had died... not that the girl herself was not wanted.  She may have died before the entry was written in.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 14:00 BST (UK) »
Many years ago I came across two very sad entries in some Parish Records (I wish I had made a note of the Parish and when), in the baptisms a  girl  named Not Wanted, then shortly afterwards her burial.
I wonder if the girls name "not wanted" really meant that the name was not required as she had died... not that the girl herself was not wanted.  She may have died before the entry was written in.


No, the incumbent was  quick to point out the sins of his parishioners, he made comments about a number of people, including another baby recorded as ‘
“Born of Fornication” I pity his parishioners.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 14:35 BST (UK) »
https://achilltourism.com/experience-achill/history/kirkintilloch-fire-disaster/

This link tells of the most unfortunate disaster of farm labourers in Scotland, who had been sleeping in a stone barn. This occurred in --1937--
I had not heard of this, one of the worst things to happen to someone.

Many years ago I came across two very sad entries in some Parish Records (I wish I had made a note of the Parish and when), in the baptisms a  girl  named Not Wanted, then shortly afterwards her burial.
I wonder if the girls name "not wanted" really meant that the name was not required as she had died... not that the girl herself was not wanted.  She may have died before the entry was written in.


No, the incumbent was  quick to point out the sins of his parishioners, he made comments about a number of people, including another baby recorded as ‘
“Born of Fornication” I pity his parishioners.

I always thought baseborn was a terrible description, but "not wanted" how awful is "that" ?