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'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« on: Tuesday 16 September 25 17:41 BST (UK) »
Hi, a bit of a strange one but I have been trying to research more about my (most likely) ancestor Isabella Boyens, who I have found in two newspaper entries.

1. In the Daily Telegraph, 30 March 1895, it is reported:

"BOYENS - If ISABELLA BOYENS, the niece of Robert Potts, late of 6, Oakleigh Street, Brick-Lane, will apply of Messrs. Hewlett, Preston and Co. of 2 Raymond-buildings, Gray's Inn, London, she will HEAR of SOMETHING to her ADVANTAGE. Any person giving satisfactory proof of the date of the death of the said Isabella Boyens will be rewarded."


2. In The Bath Chronicle, 11 April 1895, it refers to the Daily Telegraph's entry on a 'Persons Wanted' list:

"BOYENS, ISABELLA, niece of Robert Potts, late of 6, Oak-leigh Street, Brick-Lane. Something to advantage, or information of wanted. Advt. Times, March 30, 1895."

She appears to be the daughter of Henry Boyens and Isabella Potts (the latter with a brother Robert Potts, hence Isabella being the niece described). There is an Isabella Boyens born Q'2 1862, Mile End Old Town, with the MMN as Potts. However, this Isabella appears to die as an infant, with there being a corresponding death entry in the same year and same place. I have found a baptism for an Isabella Susan Boyens from 1866 with a birth date given of 2 February 1866; however, I can't find an official birth entry for this Isabella, but it is most likely this one as there is seemingly no other.

She married an Arthur William Dickens on 16 December 1895 in Edmonton, and the two can be found still in London on the 1901, 1911 and 1921 censuses (not to be confused with a slightly older Arthur William Dickens, b. 1862, who married a Cecily Domiley).

There is a death entry for an Isabella Dickens in 1948 in Dartford, Kent, age 86 = born 1862 which could fit, but I don't seem to be able to order it as a digital image and the cost of a PDF/certificate is a bit steep, so when died is unconfirmed.

There is an Isabella Boyens of London in a list of unclaimed estates published 1910, which may be relevant to the Daily Telegraph's entry about her. The Daily Telegraph's entry is rather strange, as they simultaneously address her as if she is alive and as if she is dead!

...So essentially what I am trying to find out is what she was 'wanted' for, whether to verify her uncle Robert Potts had died, or was it she herself had died and they were seeking someone to confirm this? For the latter, I discovered the 'Hewlett, Preston and Co.' was a Solicitors from the time who obviously would have been involved with the will.

I am confused by it all, especially the Daily Telegraph piece, but hopefully I have explained clearly enough and I would be very grateful for any suggestions about what's going on, thank you :)
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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 17:56 BST (UK) »
Isabella gives her age as 25 when she marries Arthur Dickens in 1895  :-\


1901 she is in Edmonton age 29 born Mile End and 1911 in Southgate age 43 bn Whitechapel - still in Southgate in 1921 age 50

Southgate comes under Edmonton RD

Death Mar qtr 1936   
Dickens    Isabella    age 66   
Edmonton    3a   1103   
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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 18:39 BST (UK) »
Try this one
1851 Census Deptford Kent
Thomas Floyd  38 Shipwright born Deptford Kent
Margaret Floyd 33 born Plymouth Devon
*Isabella Potts 11  born Limehouse  (daughter in law) s/b step daughter
*Robert Potts 7 born Limehouse  (son in law) s/b step son
Thomas Floyd 9
William Floyd 6

Thomas Floyd married Margaret Potts reg. Polar 1848

Either they were both widowed or he was widowed and Margaret had 2 illegitimate children.
It seems significant that their names  are Isabella and Robert. Might be a connection. 

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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 18:53 BST (UK) »
1841 Census  St. Anne, Limehouse

Robert Potts  30 Shipwright   Transcribed on ancestry a Petta
Margaret  20
Isabella 1

ADDED
GRO Index
Robert Potts reg. Stepney 1844 mother's maiden name Livingstone
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Robert Potts married Margaret Louanstone 1839 reg. Stepney


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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 22:38 BST (UK) »
That wording is typical when solicitors are trying to trace a lost beneficiary to a will or other financial  benefit

Robert Potts died 22 Feb 1894 in Bethnal Green workhouse. Address on the probate register was 24 Oakley St, Brick Lane. Administration of his estate was given to  Henry Boyens, engineer, in July 1895

Death registration gives his age as 45

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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 22:47 BST (UK) »
There's a Henry Boyens b c1861 who is in the Mile End area in 1881, and is an engine fitter. Looks like he may also be the child of Henry and Isabella

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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 22:49 BST (UK) »
1871 - Mile End

Henry Bayens   40
Isabella Bayens  31
Robert Bayens    7
Isabella Bayens    5    
Nicholas Boyens    2
   
Henry jnr is with his grandparents

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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 08:26 BST (UK) »
It would appear that Robert Potts of 24 Oakleigh St, Brick Lane died 22 February 1894 at Bethnal Green Workhouse without leaving a will and Henry Boyens (occ Engineer) applied to administer his estate. His effects were £288.13.11d

Perhaps Isabella was no longer in contact with her father but there was to be a payment from this money to her
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Re: 'Wanted Person' Isabella Boyens
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 12:03 BST (UK) »
Isabella gives her age as 25 when she marries Arthur Dickens in 1895  :-\

I did notice that though it's not that unusual for people to have not been entirely truthful with their ages, especially if in truth she was a bit older than him. It definitely is the right couple though, who significantly have Isabella's brother Henry Boyens' children (Emily) Elizabeth and Ernest in their household on the day the 1911 census was completed, stated as niece and nephew.

Death Mar qtr 1936   
Dickens    Isabella    age 66   
Edmonton    3a   1103   

I can see that death entry now too and don't know how I didn't find it before! Thank you for finding it!
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