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Help: brick wall GODLEY
« on: Tuesday 16 September 25 14:26 BST (UK) »
Mr. GODLEY declared to be William Thomas born 1822, from Lindfield, Sussex, England. In 1852 he married other side of the world. Declared both parents in England were dead: father Thomas GODLEY mother Lucy SKINNER. But no proof found.

An experienced researcher found out the closest:
Thomas GODLEY born to Thomas & Mary GODLEY in 1818.
Note: Maybe WT GODLEY forgot his actual birth year or took a few yrs off at marriage. Maybe baptized as Thomas but known as William Thomas to distinguish him from his father. His statement that parents were dead in 1852 (or long before), can explain he didn’t know exact details, like his mothers official name.
Couple Thomas GODLEY & Mary SKINNER married in Isfield 14 Sep 1812.
Thomas & Mary Godley children baptized in Lindfield:
Lucy 5 March 1815  /  Thomas 3 May 1818  /  Barnett 26 Nov 1820

1841 census a Thomas GODLEY is living in Lindfield with a family of 4 girls called Packham. Aged 1-20 at Upper or Littch (Little?) Plumerden Farm. Thomas is not there in 1851, some of the girls are.
Note: If this was him, it might explain Thomas was lodging in 1841 and left the country for a new life before 1851. Of course all speculative.

From sources via different continents, the following facts about WT GODLEY:
- He had a sister named Lucy GODLEY, married to John …. (unknown), they lived in Sussex.
- Annie LISTER a cousin from Sussex. Annie had a sister or daughter: Mary LISTER.
- William & Emma GATES from Brighton, Sussex, somehow related or very good friends.
- One of WT’s children died young, one of the baptismal names Barnet
About descendants WT GODLEY: some info is known, but came to a standstill.
Please help to find out more about WT GODLEY / T GODLEY and ancestors.
Maybe in connection via other names mentioned above.

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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 16:15 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat  :) :)

On the same page as Thomas in 1841 Lindfield are -

Elisha Godley -20 -ag lab bn in County

(John Godley - 25 ag lab bn in county
(Mary Godley -25 -bn in County

Have you tried researching them to see if there is a link
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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 16:30 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage for Lucy  :-\
Marriage Dec qtr 1845 
AGATE    Thomas       
GODLEY    Lucy       
Brighton    7   473   

There is a Lucy Agait age 35 bn Lindfield living in Lindfield in 1851
Children Emmer and Thomas

AGATE, IMMER       mmn GODLEY 
GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in CUCKFIELD UNION  Volume 07  Page 344
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The marriage was at St Nicholas Brighton and Lucy's father was named as Thomas Godley - witnesses were John Godley and Mary Godley
 
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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 16:39 BST (UK) »
 Hi, a possibility although may not be him.
Findmypast has a record for a William T Godley aged 22 in 1841 from Lindfield, Sussex.
British Royal Navy and Royal Marines Service and Pension records 1709 - 1939.
Lists ships served on and rank up to 1857. May have served in Mauritius after that in a different capacity.
May be why he married abroad?

Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 17:29 BST (UK) »
In 1851 Mary P Packham and Ann B Packham are living with John & Mary Godley in Lindfield - described as nieces

Mary Penfold Packham who married Thomas Sadler in 1861'
Father James Penfold occ Gamekeeper - witness Ann Booker Packham

Ann B Packham  is Ann B Godley in 1871 - married to George Godley
The marriage has her as Ann Booker Packham - father James Booker.  Georges father is Luke Godley.

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Mary Godley was born in West Hoathly as was Mary Penfold Packham so the niece connection could be on her side.
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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 01:01 BST (UK) »
In 1852 he married other side of the world.

Where did he marry? and Who did he marry?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 02:04 BST (UK) »
1st Oct 1837 in Lindfield Susex
Lucy GODLEY had a son baptised.
John Barnett Godley - illegitimate

The name Barnett might have some family significance.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 08:33 BST (UK) »
1st Oct 1837 in Lindfield Susex
Lucy GODLEY had a son baptised.
John Barnett Godley - illegitimate

The name Barnett might have some family significance.

Probable death
GODLEY, JOHN  BARNUT  age 1 
GRO Reference: 1838  Dec Quarter
MARYLEBONE reg district Volume 01  Page 198
 
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Re: Help: brick wall GODLEY
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 11:30 BST (UK) »
I did find this tree after looking at the Navy records

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u0k/

from his daughter's info, this WT is a surveyor of roads
Willsy

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Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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