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Matthews family what became of them.
« on: Tuesday 16 September 25 12:50 BST (UK) »
Joseph Matthews married Charlotte Storey on 6-1-1883 at Church of Michael & John.
Joseph was a Jeweller/Watchmaker, the couple gave 19 Sth William St as their address on Marriage certificate.
Joseph's father was named as Godfrey Matthews (Watchmaker)
Charlotte's father John Storey (Plasterer)

On 5th November 1883, Frances Matthews (female) was born to the couple at and address 48 William St (Sth).

On 6th October 1885, Mary Teresa Matthews was born at 66 William St (Sth)

On 30 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple across the city at 92 Seville Place, but the 66 Sth William st address was also on the birth cert.

This is where the trail goes cold, I have searched the 1901-1911 census for the family starting in Dublin and later countrywide without success, I have searched Irish marriage records for both girls circa 1900-1930s without success, also death records.
I have also searched death records for both parents without success.

My friend believes that John Joseph is his Grandfather who states was a 'foundling' and later went on to enlist in Merchant Navy/Royal navy circa 1902, but a family member recently recalled a mention of him training as a young boy as a 'watchmaker', my friend has his Navy records, which leave parents section 'blank' and occupation as 'dairyboy'.

Having recently found what we believe may be his birth record in 1887 and the 'disappearance' of who we think are possibly his family, I think it is fair to presume that the whole family (except John)may have emigrated, possibly to England or further afield, sometime between 1887 and 1901.

I would be really very grateful for any insight or further info on this family, who my friend in Canada has been researching for the past 20 years.
Thanking you all in anticipation.

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Re: Matthews family what became of them.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 13:35 BST (UK) »

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On 30 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple across the city at 92 Seville Place, but the 66 Sth William st address was also on the birth cert.

John Joseph born 13 September at 66 South William Street. The informant on the birth record, Ellen Pakenham lived at 92 Seville Place.   #243
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1887/02539/1940253.pdf


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Re: Matthews family what became of them.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 14:08 BST (UK) »

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On 30 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple across the city at 92 Seville Place, but the 66 Sth William st address was also on the birth cert.

John Joseph born 13 September at 66 South William Street. The informant on the birth record, Ellen Pakenham lived at 92 Seville Place.   #243
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1887/02539/1940253.pdf

Apologies for my error,and thank you for the correction, I was thrown by the Seville place addition and was unable to transcribe the 'informant'

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Re: Matthews family what became of them.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 14:15 BST (UK) »
Joseph Matthews married Charlotte Storey on 6-1-1883 at Church of Michael & John.
Joseph was a Jeweller/Watchmaker, the couple gave 19 Sth William St as their address on Marriage certificate.
Joseph's father was named as Godfrey Matthews (Watchmaker)
Charlotte's father John Storey (Plasterer)

On 5th November 1883, Frances Matthews (female) was born to the couple at and address 48 William St (Sth).

On 6th October 1885, Mary Teresa Matthews was born at 66 William St (Sth)

On 13 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple at 66 Sth William St, Ellen Pakenham 92 Seville Place present at birth.

This is where the trail goes cold, I have searched the 1901-1911 census for the family starting in Dublin and later countrywide without success, I have searched Irish marriage records for both girls circa 1900-1930s without success, also death records.
I have also searched death records for both parents without success.

My friend believes that John Joseph is his Grandfather who states was a 'foundling' and later went on to enlist in Merchant Navy/Royal navy circa 1902, but a family member recently recalled a mention of him training as a young boy as a 'watchmaker', my friend has his Navy records, which leave parents section 'blank' and occupation as 'dairyboy'.

Having recently found what we believe may be his birth record in 1887 and the 'disappearance' of who we think are possibly his family, I think it is fair to presume that the whole family (except John)may have emigrated, possibly to England or further afield, sometime between 1887 and 1901.

I would be really very grateful for any insight or further info on this family, who my friend in Canada has been researching for the past 20 years.
Thanking you all in anticipation.


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Re: Matthews family what became of them.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 14:17 BST (UK) »
I noticed on 1901 Census there was no 48 Sth William St? perhaps demolished or integrated with other premises?

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Re: Matthews family what became of them.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 14:43 BST (UK) »
If you have access to Ancestry there are several trees for this family with photos
John Joseph Matthews died 30 December 1955 Dublin South this John is with his family on the 1911 census St Patrick's Road Drumcondra Dublin
John Mathews aged 24 single and occupation painter

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 14:59 BST (UK) »
If you have access to Ancestry there are several trees for this family with photos
John Joseph Matthews died 30 December 1955 Dublin South this John is with his family on the 1911 census St Patrick's Road Drumcondra Dublin
John Mathews aged 24 single and occupation painter

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Thank you Rosie, is there a mention of Charlotte? and or their daughters?

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Re: Matthews family what became of them.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 September 25 15:29 BST (UK) »
You would need to check these out
Frances Ellen Mathews death 1963 Dublin
Mary Teresa Mathews 18/9/1887 Dublin
Charlotte Anne Mathews  ( McGlynn ) 31 /12/1961 Dublin

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