Immigration - James and Esther ARTHUR with son Horatio

[Feos]

I can't for the life of me find on which ship James ARTHUR (b.1800) and family came to Australia.

I know he returned to Adelaide in 1838 (possibly on the Merope) from Hobart. I know their other son James ARTHUR came to Adelaide in 1840 on the Lalla Rookh from London and there are plenty of mentions on Trove about their business dealings.

James ARTHUR (a carpenter/cabinetmaker) m. Esther Todd in 1817 in Hampshire.
Their second son, Horatio, was born around 1831 and baptised at Lambeth on 26 Dec 1834 and I wonder if was in preparation for emigration. I don't believe James was a convict because he was running businesses in Adelaide in 1838.

A couple of records e.g marriage to Esther Todd show his name as "Acttorson James Arthur" or "Atkinson James Arthur" and Esther's death index in Vic shows "Aitchieson James Arthur".

It appears the family moved around to TAS, VIC and Maitland in NSW. I believe James and Esther left the colony for a while but returned (from reading on Trove).

I am also unable to find any death certificate for James ARTHUR (senior).

I've been searchin A****y records and Adelaide Shipping lists, Trove, etc with no luck.

With thanks
Mark

[cupoflife]

Esther ARTHUR and James ARTHUR at Geelong Eastern Cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/163577126/esther-arthur
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/163577128/james-arthur

Vic death
Registration number 11965 / 1882
Family name: ARTHUR
Given name(s) Jas
Place of event: G'LONG, Australia
Personal detail
Mother's name <Unknown Family Name>
Mother's family name at birth
Father's Name: <Unknown Family Name>

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/150393464
GEELONG HOSPITAL
MORTALITY
James Arthur, aged 85 years, asthema [sic]

[cupoflife]

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[Feos]

Brilliant! Thanks cupoflife.

I know there was more than one James Arthur but the fact that both James and Esther are in Geelong Eastern Cemetery is promising.

Now to figure out some new ways to search for the ship on which they arrived. They are the only 2 out of my 52 direct ancestor arrivals of which I don't know the ship!

[amondg]

There is a J Arthur, wife and child on the Cabolia left Liverpool 7 May 1833 arrived Hobart Australia 25 August 1833. They are in steerage.

transcribed on ancestry as Jay Arthur.

It is hand written and I'm not sure if the "y"  belongs on his name 

[sparrett]

Death

ARTHUR Esther A
Father HORATIO F
Mother MARY A
Reg 4408/1860
At WEST MAITLAND.

Also registered at west Maitland

Horatio Frederick William ARTHUR
Parents James and Esther
4220/1871

James ARTHUR
Parents James and Esther
9961/1901

Sue

[sparrett]

The three above are buried at Campbell's hill Cemetery Church of England.
The share- Section A3 Plot 61-62.
Sue

Adding
This news item touches upon the marriage of Esther and James ARTHUR. James is in prison at the time. The magistrate seems to express some doubt as to the marriage between James and Esther, but Esther states a date and place.

1842
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/263774201?searchTerm=%22horatio%20arthur%22

James was imprisoned as an insolvent debtor. 1845

https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/62935/images/i3196263-00006?usePUB=true&_phsrc=&_phstart=successSource&pId=366443

Here is the record of hearings and sentence. Viewable through Ancestry.

https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/62314/images/62314_b1110112-00204?usePUB=true&_phsrc=&_phstart=successSource&pId=51888

[Dundee]

There is a J Arthur, wife and child on the Cabolia left Liverpool 7 May 1833 arrived Hobart Australia 25 August 1833. They are in steerage.

transcribed on ancestry as Jay Arthur.

It is hand written and I'm not sure if the "y"  belongs on his name

That family went on to Sydney, James, Rebecca and son Charles.

If James and Esther were not assisted immigrants then they may be down as being amongst xx steerage passengers and not recorded by name.

Debra 

[Feos]

I was very excited until I noticed James of the Cabotia was married to a Rebecca.

The articles on Trove regarding James' insolvency are fascinating. Definitely sounds like something dodgy was going on. They returned briefly to England, departing the colony on the Dorset but arriving in England on the Princess Victoria - but I can't even find the ship on which they returned to Australia the second time.

I'm descended from James, son of James and Esther. He became a lockup keeper in Maitland.

I wonder whether any records from England would show the Arthurs emigrating.

Thanks again, everyone.
Mark