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Missing couple
« on: Sunday 14 September 25 21:19 BST (UK) »
I would like to find any information on Jules Convert and Maureen Paddan, who were married.  Jules Convert had a home in Dublin but was in Belfast with his wife, Maureen, in 1930 when she gave birth to a child.. I have searched various genealogical sites but can't find any birth, death, or marriage records for either of them. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: Missing couple
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 September 25 21:55 BST (UK) »
You’ve posted on the wrong board, you can ask a moderator to move this to Ireland or perhaps Europe.

There are a couple of mentions of a Jules Convert in the newspapers.
A dance in Feb 1930 M. Jules Convert brother in law of Mr. Lowenstein the late Belgian Banker.
March 29 1930 at a meeting of Irish Agricultural Industries Company Limited.
March 29 1930 Jules W.A. Convert a Belgian address Gresham Hotel, driving offence.

Could this be your man?

Maureen is a version of Mary and Padian appears to be a variation of Paddan.

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Re: Missing couple
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 September 25 23:11 BST (UK) »
Note that the baptismal record for the child born in 1930 (St. Patrick's, Belfast) states that he was later adopted.


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Re: Missing couple
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 September 25 09:06 BST (UK) »

Note that the baptismal record for the child born in 1930 (St. Patrick's, Belfast) states that he was later adopted.


The sponsor for that baptism was a Mary Teresa Pedan.  Occurrences of that surname (or variants) with the forename Maureen weren't exactly thick on the ground, so the following person, albeit quite young, has to be a possibility, Maureen Padian born in Belfast in April 1913, it turns out that the mother was called Mary Teresa (Owens).

Birth:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1913/01444/1591106a.pdf

Parent's marriage:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10108/5677456.pdf

1911 Ireland Census:
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Bangor/Clifton_Street/261684/

Added:  With the usual caveat about potential inaccuracy and the need to validate stuff yourself, there are several trees on the "Ancestry" website showing lots of information about this family (Maureen's siblings, her parent's parents, etc. - way too much to regurgitate here), but no mention of Jules Convert.  However, Maureen married a Daniel Reeves in Berlin in 1931 (her place and date of birth in the documentation is a match, it looks sound) and there was a further marriage after that, also several children.  In the circumstances, I'm starting to wonder if there was a marriage to Jules Convert at all.



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Re: Missing couple
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 00:34 BST (UK) »
You’ve posted on the wrong board, you can ask a moderator to move this to Ireland or perhaps Europe.

There are a couple of mentions of a Jules Convert in the newspapers.
A dance in Feb 1930 M. Jules Convert brother in law of Mr. Lowenstein the late Belgian Banker.
March 29 1930 at a meeting of Irish Agricultural Industries Company Limited.
March 29 1930 Jules W.A. Convert a Belgian address Gresham Hotel, driving offence.

Could this be your man?

Thank you for your reply. I have requested the moderator to move the post.

Could you give me details of the newspapers or the articles please?

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 16:10 BST (UK) »
Sure, I was using my iPad before and Irish Newspapers Archives sometime freezes on that so I couldn't see the results properly.

Irish Independent Feb 10 1930 just a report of a dance at the The Plaza for the Bective Rugby Club, Jules is just listed along with lots of other people.

Westmeath Independent 29 March 1930, meeting of IAICL held in Athlone on the 26th, again he's just listed among others but he was clearly not the only Belgian there, they, the Belgians were involved in setting up an industry in Athlone, which appears to be involved in food production there is mention of tapioca and potato starch.

Westmeath Independent same date, on the 4th March Jules was driving (fast) from Dublin to Athlone through the town of Kilbeggan, a cart blocked the road when trying to pass a stationary car, Jules hit the car. Fined.
One I couldn't see last time
Evening Herald April 21 1930
District Court Jules giving an address of 16 Herbert Place, charged with drunk driving on Grafton St. His solicitor said Jules had been in Ireland since the end of January. He was given whiskey at a friends house and was not used to the strong drink in this country. Judge let him off.

I search 1920 to 1940 and that's all the results that came up.

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Re: Missing couple
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 16:35 BST (UK) »
Given mention above of a Jules W. A. Convert having been in Ireland and with Belgian links, there was this Belgian marriage in 1908 (albeit some transcribed details seem odd, eg the bride's year of birth):

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9T9-BMSW?lang=en

Name   Jules Wilhelm Alfred Convert
Birth Date   1879

to

Spouse's Name   Adelaïde Marie Misonne
Spouse's Birth Date   1825 (???)


So, he is possibly the chap who apparently died 1947 per https://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/genealogieen-vanuit-de-antwerpse-rupelstreek/I36068.php  His wife apparently died in 1916, in London https://www.stamboomonderzoek.com/luc1961/getperson.php?personID=I85734&tree=luc1961.

Deaths Jun 1916   
Convert    Genevieve J R A M    30    Marylebone    1a   644

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Re: Missing couple
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 September 25 21:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your helpful replies  :)


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Re: Missing couple
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 20:42 »
Given mention above of a Jules W. A. Convert having been in Ireland and with Belgian links, there was this Belgian marriage in 1908 (albeit some transcribed details seem odd, eg the bride's year of birth):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9T9-BMSW?lang=en

Name   Jules Wilhelm Alfred Convert
Birth Date   1879
to
Spouse's Name   Adelaïde Marie Misonne
Spouse's Birth Date   1825 (???)


In 1939 this Jules was living in Brussels when one of his daughters marries:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHN-GQGK-L7C5?i=234 (MC#621)

And also in 1944 when Jules marries for a second time:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHJ-5QGK-G4KH?i=280 (MC#753)

PS "quatre-vingt-cinq" = 85, NOT 25