Tracking down Mary in Newbold

[Richard Knott]

Mary married Joseph WRIGHT (a publican/innkeeper/pot seller) and lived most of her life in Cheadle, Staffordshire where he was born. Her age is consistent from 1841-66 (70+ in 1841; 83 in 1851; 92 in 1861; 98 when she died in 1866) and both the 1851 and 1861 censuses give her place of birth as Newbold, Leicestershire (although she dies put Yes rather than No in 1841 when asked whether she was born in Staffordshire.

Is Newbold likely to refer to Newbold Verdon or Newbold Coleorton?

I think she and Joseph must have married shortly before 1800 (I can't find any earlier baptisms and the first four children are William, Philip, Mary and Joseph so includes their own names), but that would make them unusually old to marry.

At the moment I can't find any names which match possible marriages in Staffordshire/Leicestershire with possible baptisms in Newbold Verdon, but the list of baptisms in Worthington (NC) is quite long, so it would be useful to know which Newbold it is likely to be !

Richard

[willsy]

It's a real puzzle looking at ages; looked at baptisms and there's a bit of a gap between the younger and older children that seem to be with her looking at the census,

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u0b/

? son James 1809
? dau Ellen 1811
Elizabeth 1813, address is Cheadle Mill and occ.publican

From 1861 Oak Street, when Ann Wright marries Thomas Shenton, her father is Joseph occ. potseller, address Oak Yard.

There's a tree with photo's if you have a look at Michael and Thomas which includes a son Phillip born 1801 if it helps at all.

[Richard Knott]

Thanks for looking.

Yes, I know about the children born from 1809 to 1820 in Cheadle (James, Ellen, Elizabeth, Thomas, Michael and Anne). I did wonder whether the Joseph born in 1795 in Burton was the same couple as it would fit with a marriage there in 1792, but that couple had a son William baptised in Oct 1820, nine months after the William being baptised by my couple in Dilhorne.

I would like to find the pre-1800 marriage but I think my first task is to pin down where Newbold is.

Richard

[amondg]

Is this your man?.

Nottingham Review dated 18 September 1835

One Guinea Reward
Whereas Joseph Wright late of the parish of Cheadle dealer in China and Earthenware, did, on the 13th day of March last leave his family chargeable to the parish of Cheadle. he stands about 5' 9 inches high, dark complexion and is supposed to be in the neighbourhood of Nottingham or Leicester.
(It continues---)
First appeared Cheadle August 26th 1835.

If it is your man then Poor Law records for Cheadle if they still exist may have the particulars for
 Mary and the children.

ADDED
Possibly his son Joseph and not his father.
Joseph husband of Mary appears to have died age 54 in 1823

[Richard Knott]

You are right: Joseph Sr did die in 1823. But this adds a little grist to the story of the family, so thanks.
Richard

[Richard Knott]

A long shot but I have now found a Mary BAILEY bap Newbold Coleorton in 1763.
It is a few years early but her father's name is Philip, which would account for the name of her second child.
R

[Richard Knott]

This is looking better. Whitwick is 2 miles from Coleorton and Philip and Mary BAYLEY (married 1739) had several children there, including their last, Mary, in 1767. She has been indexed as BAGLEY.

Now there's just the small task of connecting this Mary to Joseph WRIGHT. It may have been her second marriage which makes things more complicated.

Richard

[amondg]

First daughter was Mary usually named after the maternal grand mother.

Second daughter Ellen usually named after the paternal grandmother - Joseph's parents are likely Joseph and Ellen (nee Hellen Beardman) who married Cheadle 20 November 1762, witness James Wright and Thomas Stubbs.

[Richard Knott]

Yes, I had always assumed that Joseph was bap 1769 s Joseph and Ellen but hadn't thought about the Scottish naming system (I didn't know it was used so far south). The mothers' names fit well, but naming your first three sons William, Philip and then Joseph seems odd unless there had been some earlier children who died.

Ellen appears to have had at least seventeen children spread across thirty years, but I think I'll focus on finding the Joseph/Mary marriage (if, indeed, they married).

If Joseph (b1769) and Mary  BAYLEY (b1767) are the right people, they are quite old when they start having children in Dilhorne, so perhaps there were earlier children (or other marriages).

Richard