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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 September 25 18:25 BST (UK) »
Looks to me like she died as Patricia Ann Mabel COWARD on 14 Jul 2008 in Llanelli, post code SA15. Probate 14 Aug 2008.



COWARD, PATRICIA  ANN MABEL    1937 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q3/2008 in CARMARTHENSHIRE/SIR GAERFYRDDIN  (8221A)  Reg 1A005  Entry Number 501058967


Births Dec 1937  
Franklin    Patricia A M    Roll    Lewisham    1d   1006

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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 September 25 10:27 BST (UK) »
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Marriage q3 1956 Wolverhampton 9b 2273 - Patricia A M FRANKLIN + Raymond G SMITH (not Reginald as previously reported)

? Marriage q4 1970 Wincanton 7c 1314 - Patricia J SMITH + Stephen M HILLIER ?
Apart from this 1970 marriage I cant see how her name changed from SMITH to HILLIER. Maybe there was yet another marriage!

Marriage q2 1929 Camberwell 1d 1430 - Harry FRANKLIN + Beatrice M L ROLL.
1939 register indicates that Beatrice changed her name to CLARKE but I cannot find a marriage

Possible siblings for Patricia
Robert H 1929 - died 1933?
Allan 1933 - maybe with grandmother Beatrice M ROLL in 1939
Ronald G 1940

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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 September 25 10:42 BST (UK) »
1939 24 Loampit Hill Lewisham
Harry Franklin b 28 March 1893  Ranger cable laying.
Beatrice ML Franklin / Clarke b 8 January 1910

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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 13 September 25 10:50 BST (UK) »
Deaths Dec 1975   (>99%)FRANKLIN  8 Mr 1893 Brent
Deaths Mar 1971   (>99%)FRANKLIN Beatrice Marie L  8 Ja1910 Todmorden 
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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 13 September 25 11:02 BST (UK) »
Deaths Dec 1975   (>99%)FRANKLIN  8 Mr 1893 Brent
Deaths Mar 1971   (>99%)FRANKLIN Beatrice Marie L  8 Ja1910 Todmorden

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Deaths Dec 1975   (>99%)FRANKLIN Harry 28 Mr 1893 Brent 
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 13 September 25 15:05 BST (UK) »
Name   Patricia A Hillier
Registration Date   Dec 1995
[Dec]
[1995]
Registration District   Barnstaple
Inferred County   Devon
Spouse   
Michael J Coward
Volume Number   404
Page number   419
Entry Number   123

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This couple are together in 2005 at 12, Annesley Street, Llanelli, Dyfed, SA15 2PT. Their marriage ties in with opening post re location. So it would appear to rule out the below death.

A Patricia COWARD died in Newport district in 1998. Probate with Will. Date of birth 18 November 1931,

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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 14 September 25 14:45 BST (UK) »
Debs1962, I see you have been regularly online including today. Do you have any comments on the research undertaken on your behalf, be it useful or not. I would like to ask you if you know,when was Raymond George Smith (1934) died 2005 parents Reginald & Jessie

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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 14 September 25 16:05 BST (UK) »

Possible siblings for Patricia
Robert H 1929 - died 1933?
Allan 1933 - maybe with grandmother Beatrice M ROLL in 1939  dob as per death below.
Ronald G 1940

Name   Allan Franklin
Death Age   70
Birth Date   9 Aug 1933
Registration Date   Jun 2004
Registration District   Wolverhampton
Inferred County   West Midlands
Register Number   A68A
District and Subdistrict   077/1A
Entry Number   86

Allan married Rosemary Pinson (nee' Powell) 1979 Wolverhampton. Rosemary died 2012

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Re: Finding an Aunt
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 14 September 25 18:09 BST (UK) »
I am still confused as to why Beatrice is shown in the 1939 register as having changed her name from Franklin to CLARKE (in 1946?) but then gets buried as FRANKLIN.
In fact her death certificate seems to be done in both names.
Death q1 1971 Todmorden 2d 1473, Beatrice Marie L CLARKE born 8 Jan 1910
Death q1 1971 Todmorden 2d 1473, Beatrice Marie L FRANKLIN born 8 Jan 1910

I suppose getting a copy of the death certificate might explain it.

Then we have Patricia being married to Raymond SMITH, leaving or divorcing him and then getting married in Barnstaple as Patricia HILLIER to a man called COWARD. I suppose maybe she had got married in Scotland or perhaps just changed her name to HILLIER. The marriage certificate of her last marriage might explain.