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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 11 September 25 21:55 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dobfarm on Thursday 11 September 25 20:28 BST (UK)
Sinann can you find anything to add to this event as you seem to know the Ireland records

Julia Williams
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Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
Death Registration  1876 aged 65
Middleton, County Cork, Ireland
Birth  1811 


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR19-162?lang=en


Middleton is there about 15miles from Cobh or Queenstown


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Midleton,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.8737613,-8.2829875,11z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4843632e5ff561e1:0xa00c7a997319f70!8m2!3d51.9143321!4d-8.1726276!16zL20vMDNidDNi?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDkwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Clearly the Julia we want died in Berlin but just to cover any doubt, this Julia was a blacksmith’s wife.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1876/020573/7219126.pdf

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 11 September 25 22:17 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Sinann on Thursday 11 September 25 21:55 BST (UK)
Quote from: dobfarm on Thursday 11 September 25 20:28 BST (UK)
Sinann can you find anything to add to this event as you seem to know the Ireland records

Julia Williams
Principal
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
Death Registration  1876 aged 65
Middleton, County Cork, Ireland
Birth  1811 


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR19-162?lang=en


Middleton is there about 15miles from Cobh or Queenstown


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Midleton,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.8737613,-8.2829875,11z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4843632e5ff561e1:0xa00c7a997319f70!8m2!3d51.9143321!4d-8.1726276!16zL20vMDNidDNi?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDkwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Clearly the Julia we want died in Berlin but just to cover any doubt, this Julia was a blacksmith’s wife.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1876/020573/7219126.pdf

It needed checking out being this Julia's birth year was same as Julia Knox 1811 before the Berlin death was found.
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 11 September 25 22:18 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dobfarm on Thursday 11 September 25 21:45 BST (UK)
Your family tree is expanding into geography not just ancestry.  ;D
A lot of my family live in Australia, some live in the USA and some are here in England. I will see if I can get a digital copy of the death certificate through the German authorities. I'm sure chatGTP will help with that.

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 11 September 25 22:37 BST (UK) »
1 Question - where was the 2 sisters Hannah Maria (Taylor) and Henriette (of Berlin ) born and years of birth
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Re: When do you have enough information?
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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #51 on: Friday 12 September 25 03:42 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Jillity on Thursday 11 September 25 21:10 BST (UK)
Berlin, Germany, Deaths, 1874-1955,
Record details
Name   Julia Willianus
Gender   weiblich (Female)
Death Place   Berlin, Berlin, Deutschland (Germany)
Spouse   Camzbelll Willianus
Child   Henriette Hartmann
I don't have international access to the Ancestry records. It doesn't give a date, which is annoying.

I don't read German, however I think this is the death of Henriette HARTMAN on 16 April 1914, aged 77. It mentions her parents Campbell WILLIAMS and Julia [?].

Happy to send you a copy if you would like to see it. (not sure whether copyright allows us to post the whole image here?)

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #52 on: Friday 12 September 25 07:45 BST (UK) »
Yes, I'd love a copy please if you can send it. Julia went to live with her daughter and son-in-law in Germany.

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #53 on: Friday 12 September 25 09:35 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Jillity on Thursday 11 September 25 23:44 BST (UK)
Quote from: Sinann on Thursday 11 September 25 23:28 BST (UK)
Hannah Maria 1829
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/church/d-298-2-2-032.pdf

No image for Henrietta but 1836
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=35f0da5162-1135

Julia Williams 1830
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=9fccfa1155-62842

Georgina 1832
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=9fccfa1155-63338
Thank you. Yes, that's my family. I have them all in my tree.

All Dublin baptisms! then why Queenstown -? with no baptism for John Andrew Williams 1840 and his father Campbell Williams a solicitor renowned for accurate paperwork (was John Andrew Williams adopted or fostered ( still springs to mind ) being brought up by Campbell -?)
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