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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 11 September 25 20:28 BST (UK) »
Sinann can you find anything to add to this event as you seem to know the Ireland records

Julia Williams
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Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
Death Registration  1876 aged 65
Middleton, County Cork, Ireland
Birth  1811 


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR19-162?lang=en


Middleton is there about 15miles from Cobh or Queenstown


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Midleton,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.8737613,-8.2829875,11z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x4843632e5ff561e1:0xa00c7a997319f70!8m2!3d51.9143321!4d-8.1726276!16zL20vMDNidDNi?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDkwOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 11 September 25 20:38 BST (UK) »
The family all lived in Dublin. It was only John who was born in Queenstown in 1840. Campbell Williams was a Dublin solicitor. I don't know if there was a family connection in Queenstown, but there are no other records of any of the family having anyone in Cork. I'll check the Knox family genealogy.

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 11 September 25 20:55 BST (UK) »
The family all lived in Dublin. It was only John who was born in Queenstown in 1840. Campbell Williams was a Dublin solicitor. I don't know if there was a family connection in Queenstown, but there are no other records of any of the family having anyone in Cork. I'll check the Knox family genealogy.

Well if you think about it Campbell Williams and wife  Julia was in Queenstown in 1840/1841 when John Andrew Williams was born, then Campbell dies 8 years later in 1848  his job kept him in Dublin, so what does Julia do after her husbands death, if there was nothing to keep her in Dublin and maybe went back to Cork area.

The dates fit on this Middleton Julia death 1876,
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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 11 September 25 21:10 BST (UK) »
Berlin, Germany, Deaths, 1874-1955,
Record details
Name   Julia Willianus
Gender   weiblich (Female)
Death Place   Berlin, Berlin, Deutschland (Germany)
Spouse   Camzbelll Willianus
Child   Henriette Hartmann
I don't have international access to the Ancestry records. It doesn't give a date, which is annoying.


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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 11 September 25 21:31 BST (UK) »
I was wondering who the Henry Molony that appears in the land records with Julia was and if he would lead to her death.
Hannah Maria Taylor is one of his executors and informant on his death cert, with the same address.
278 https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06169/4763395.pdf
right hand page
https://willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014902/005014902_00276.pdf

Still no joy with Julia.

Hannah Maria Taylor was Hannah Maria Williams daughter of Campbell & Julia Williams

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At Christ Church, Newcastle, 3rd inst., by the Rev. W. L. Kaye, Mr. Benjamin Taylor, ship owner, to Hannah Maria, eldest daughter of the late Campbell William Williams, Esq., solicitor, Dublin.
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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 11 September 25 21:36 BST (UK) »
Berlin, Germany, Deaths, 1874-1955,
Record details
Name   Julia Willianus
Gender   weiblich (Female)
Death Place   Berlin, Berlin, Deutschland (Germany)
Spouse   Camzbelll Willianus
Child   Henriette Hartmann
I don't have international access to the Ancestry records. It doesn't give a date, which is annoying.

Well its got Camzbell Willianus so it must be the right death.

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 11 September 25 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hannah Maria was my great grandfather's sister. He conveyed some land to her in 1901. Julia died in Berlin and I don't have access to the international records. I'm far to tight to pay for it.

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 11 September 25 21:40 BST (UK) »
Berlin, Germany, Deaths, 1874-1955,
Record details
Name   Julia Willianus
Gender   weiblich (Female)
Death Place   Berlin, Berlin, Deutschland (Germany)
Spouse   Camzbelll Willianus
Child   Henriette Hartmann
I don't have international access to the Ancestry records. It doesn't give a date, which is annoying.

Well its got Camzbell Willianus so it must be the right death.
Henriette was Julia and Campbell's daughter. She married a German man called August Hartmann and they went to live in Berlin.

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Re: When do you have enough information?
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 11 September 25 21:45 BST (UK) »
Your family tree is expanding into geography not just ancestry.  ;D
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