Margaret Watson (b.1839)

[kivo]

Hi all.

From all the records I have on my ancestor Margaret Watson, I believe she was born in Ireland around 1839, and moved to Scotland with her parents Andrew and Mary (ne Kennedy) aged 2.

I can't narrow down her birthplace any better than Ireland I'm afraid, so is there any other way of finding her birth record?

I can't find a marriage record for her parents either!

I have found an 1838 baptism in Donaghadee for a Mary Watson, with parents Andrew and Mary - and a note saying the child's name is unclear - could it be Margaret? How do I see the original image?

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Possibly parents marriage.

Ireland, Indexes to Wills, Probate Administration, Marriage Bonds and Licences, 1591-1866

Name   Andrew Watson
Record Type   Marriage
Marriage Date   1835
Marriage Place   Eire Armagh, Ireland
Registration Place   Armagh, Ireland
Diocese   Armagh
Spouse   
Mary Kennedy

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[Kiltaglassan]

Ireland, Indexes to Wills, Probate Administration, Marriage Bonds and Licences, 1591-1866

Name   Andrew Watson
Record Type   Marriage
Marriage Date   1835
Marriage Place   Eire Armagh, Ireland
Registration Place   Armagh, Ireland
Diocese   Armagh
Spouse   
Mary Kennedy

Diocesan and Prerogative Marriage Licence Bonds 1623-1866

https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/dm/IRE_DIOC_007246527_00293.pdf

[Jon_ni]

How do I see the original image

For Protestant marriages that usually involves visiting PRONI in Belfast and consulting the microfilm of the church (as RootsIreland only has Transcripts). Check it exists for the parish, denomination & church desired. https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/guide-church-records
However, given the Marriage Bond in Armagh Diocese, the Donaghadee entry you found is unlikely to be her. Understand that church records used pre-civil registration are incomplete, not all survive and not all of the surviving are online in any form. More Church of Ireland records were lost PRO Dublin 1922 than survive (along with the original copy of that marriage Bond index entry). So not finding a marriage or baptism 1835-1840 is common; it is around that era that more Presbyterian and Roman Catholic registers begin to be kept too.

Narrowing down from Ireland to somewhere in Armagh Diocese (not County, parishes in Louth, Armagh, Tyrone & Londonderry) does not really get you any further
- map https://archive.org/details/armaghclergypari00lesl/page/n509/mode/2up
list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocese_of_Armagh_(Church_of_Ireland)
https://www.irish-geneaography.com/church-of-ireland-dioceses--diocesan-records.html

If Andrew or Mary lived past 1855 then their Scottish Death Certs should be viewed as those would name their parents (if the informant had been told & recalled correctly).

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Would the official birth entry for Mary Watson show details of parents marriage.

1871 census
Andrew   Watson   Head   Widower   Male   57   1814   Shipbuilder lab   Ireland
Margaret   Watson   Daughter   Unmarried   Female   30   1841   -   Ireland
Mary   Watson   Daughter   -   Female   7   1864   Scholar   Wigtownshire, Scotland
Alexander   Carnochran   Visitor   Unmarried   Male   19   1852   Engineer (fitter)   Stranraer, Wigtownshire, Scotland

WATSON
MARY ANDREW
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1864
891 / 6  Leswalt (added, this child is the illegitimate daughter of Andrew's daughter Margaret)


1861-Labourer's House, Leswalt (Landward), Wigtownshire, Scotland
Andrew   Watson   -   Married   Male   47   1814   Labourer   Ireland
Mary   Watson   -   Married   Female   50   1811   -   Ireland
James   Watson   -   Unmarried   Male   19   1842   Cabinetmaker ap   Portpatrick, Wigtownshire, Scotland
Elizabeth   Watson   -   -   Female   14   1847   Scholar   Portpatrick, Wigtownshire, Scotland

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Info only, Mary Watson wife of Andrew died 12th March 1868 aged 57. Her parents recorded as David Kennedy (hand loom weaver) and Grace McConnell. Son James recorded her death.

Andrew Watson died 7th May 1871, son James recorded death. NO details of parents on record.

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[Jon_ni]

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very kind of you to use your own credits and £ to view the death images on Scotland's People

Andrew's death https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9GJ-L1Y5
James's baptism https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMMG-TN1 22 Aug 1841 Portpatrick Old Parish Registers [no entry for daughter Elizabeth or son Andrew]

1851 census Main Street, Portpatrick
Andrew Watson   Head   36   1815   Ag lab      Ireland
Mary Watson   Wife      40   1811   Seamstress   Ireland
Margaret       Daughter   12   1839   Scholar      Ireland
James Watson   Son      9   1842   Scholar      Portpatrick
Andrew Watson   Son      7   1844   Scholar      Portpatrick
E J J   Watson   Daughter    4   1847   -         Portpatrick

1841 census South Crescent, Portpatrick
Andrew Watson   26   1815   Labourer      Ireland
Mary   Watson   28   1813   -         Ireland
Margaret       2   1839   -         Ireland
female Watson   3 weeks      -         Wigtownshire [must be James if baptised Aug 41]