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Len Martin - WW.1 Soldier & Cinema Manager - Plz Help
« on: Tuesday 09 September 25 02:16 BST (UK) »
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Hi Folks & hope you are all keeping well.

I am hoping that some learned people on this wonderful forum MIGHT be able to help me in my search for the aforementioned chap in the title ?

Very little to go by I'm afraid, but I'll provide what little I can.

When my Mum (now regrettably deceased for over 10+ years) was roughly in her late 20's or early 30's (?), which would be mid-late 1950's or very early 1960's, she worked at the so-called...

"Plaza" later re-named "Gaumont" Cinema, in South Street, Romford, Essex, near Liberty Walk.

Her Manager was the guy in question, named Len Martin.

My 94 y/o Dad tonight has furnished me with what little detail he knows, as hitherto, I did NOT know Len's Christian name - only that he was Manager at that once upon a time famous, well-used & much loved Cinema, before Cinemas generally fell into decline & popularity, mainly due to the advent, or rather 'explosion in popularity' of the, by then, ubiquitous Television.

Am told by Dad that he was in charge "for a very long time", but guessing in the 1950's, when Cinemas were still in vogue (realistically & metaphorically speaking)

From memory, "The Plaza" aka "Gaumont" eventually met it's demise (I'm told), sometime in the Early 1960's or maybe Mid-1960's
  ( Am told the Beatles played one of their Pre-1963/'64 concerts at one of the Romford  Cinemas, but I sadly cannot recall which one... ).

I know my Mother went on a week-long Holiday with Mr.Len Martin to Weymouth or Bournemouth, as I recall seeing small B & W, 3x5 photographs as late as the early 1970s (as a child), as they ended up in an old box, in our Greenhouse shed, preparatory to being thrown away (Yikes) which also included some pix of my Dad when he served in the R.A.F during the late 1940's & early 1950's
   ( circa Korean War era - I saved those important pix, of Dad with his Lee-Enfield 0.303 )

Back to Len Martin.

I noted he had "plasters over glasses" & as a young child, was informed that...

"He was a British Army Soldier who served in WW.1 & was blinded & wounded via Gas Attack in the trenches in which he served at that time"

Was also told (as a kid) that it damaged his eyesight (for life) & ruined & wrecked his lungs.
 This of course is heresay by my Mother, as I was told sometime in the 1960's.


I have NO idea EXACTLY where he was wounded (region/area), nor with which infantry regiment he served, nor when he was withdrawn after being wounded - But of course, I'd like to know.

I'd hazard a guess that "if" (as) he was gassed, it would be likely 1915 or 1916 possibly, as by 1917 *(as far as I know), British Soldiers would have had suitably developed Gas-masks around the time of Passchendaele & beyond, whilst serving on the Western Front - an assumption of mine.

If anyone could help fill me in about my Mum's 1950's & early 1960's "Plaza / Gaumont" Cinema Boss/Manager, or better yet, ANYTHING regarding Len's WW.1 service & wounding incident & battlefield region, I'd be most grateful, please.

Thanks in advance...  "Hornchurch".

POST EDIT = Found these online pix of the very Cinema in question....

  https://cinematreasures.org/theaters/31282/photos/162086

  https://cinematreasures.org/theaters/31282/photos/83244 


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Re: Len Martin - WW.1 Soldier & Cinema Manager - Plz Help
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 02:59 BST (UK) »


From memory, "The Plaza" aka "Gaumont" eventually met it's demise (I'm told), sometime in the Early 1960's or maybe Mid-1960's


I can see a mention of the Gaumont Cinema Romford being bought  "for commercial redevelopment" in 1963.

Monday,  Jan. 28, 1963
Publication: Financial Times



Not related to your query, but there is also this snippet:

"Miss Grace Garner, 9 Charlecote Road, Dagenham, an usherette at the Gaumont Cinema, Romford, won the "Beauty Queen of the Week" competition at a holiday camp at Seaton, Devon"
Friday,  June 16, 1950
Publication: Essex Newsman

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Re: Len Martin - WW.1 Soldier & Cinema Manager - Plz Help
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 08:03 BST (UK) »
21 March 1946: Kinematograph Weekly

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Odeon Club Forms Football League
An Odeon National Cinema Club Football League and Knock-out Cup competition has been formed as the result of a meeting attended bv E. McQuaid, Controller Odeon National Cinema Club, F Pike, Assistant Area Theatre Controller, and C. Attrill, Publicity Adviser.

L. A. Martin, Plaza, Romford was appointed secretary.

The following clubs were elected to the league:

Odeon, Barking; Odeon, Brentwood; Odeon, Chingford; Odeon. East Ham; Towers, Hornchurch; Odeon, Mile End; Plaza, Romford; Regent. Becontree; Odeon, Chadwell Heath: Heathway, Dagenham; Odeon. Forest Gate; Savoy. Ilford: Havana, Romford; Capitol, Upminster.

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 08:07 BST (UK) »
5 March 1936: Kinematograph Weekly
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PLAZA, ROMFORD, REOPENED
Extensive Reconditioning
At 1.30 p.m. on Monday, March 2 the Plaza, Romford, reopened its doors to the public after having been closed for a month, during which period extensive redecorations and renovations have been carried out.

Deep cream relieved by silver and pale green panelling is the colour scheme chosen for the reconditioned entrance hall.

In the projection room Western Electric Wide Range has been installed to work in conjunction with Kalee No. 11 projectors.

L. A. Martin, who was house manager at the recently opened Havana in the same town, has been appointed manager. The Plaza is owned by the New Victory Super Cinema Co., Ltd.. the managing director of which is G. W. Boultwood. J. P.
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Re: Len Martin - WW.1 Soldier & Cinema Manager - Plz Help
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 08:22 BST (UK) »
I think he is Leonard Arthur Martin

b 18th February 1898

married Q2 1922, Ruby Wiseman

in 1939 a cinema manager with his wife Ruby and probably 6 children (some redactions).

Died Q1 1973, Romford

No hints of a military record coming up (by which I mean, I haven’t actively searched military records).
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Re: Len Martin - WW.1 Soldier & Cinema Manager - Plz Help
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 13:54 BST (UK) »
If his birthday is 18.2.1898 as in earlier answer there are several POW records  for a Leonard A Martin

One record gives the following
Martin L.
200810   sign.  Essex Regiment
Born 18.2.1898 Leytonstone (1899 in one record)
Parents Mr & Mrs Martin, 605 Romford Road, Forestgate, London

If it had been him, i would have thought it might have been mentioned he had been captured.

Cathy

Added a pension  ledger and index card for
 Leonard Arthur Martin 3000/200810
has NOK Leonard Arthur Martin (Unsure this is correct as cannot see actual image)
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 14:39 BST (UK) »
Born 18.2.1898 Leytonstone (1899 in one record)
Parents Mr & Mrs Martin, 605 Romford Road, Forestgate, London

1921: 605 Romford Road, Forest Gate, Arthur Albert Martin, credit draper, with wife and two children Gladys and Clifford

1911: same family, different address, but additional resident Leonard Arthur Martin, 13, born Leytonstone
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 14:50 BST (UK) »
The POW record that I can see with the correct birthdate and the Romford Road address includes “Unverwoundet. Parchim”.

Unverwoundet means unwounded, Parchim was, I believe, a POW camp.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 September 25 14:59 BST (UK) »
Perhaps the definition of 'wounded' didn't include temporary effects of gas exposure.

I asked an AI about delayed effects of gas exposure, and apparently this was a thing. The source linked below includes this statement:

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In some cases, after 10 to 25 years after the [mustard gas] exposure, some patients experienced recurrent or persistent corneal ulceration and chronic conjunctivitis and corneal clouding often accompanied this.

https://eyemuseum.ranzco.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Mustard_gas_use_in_World_War_V1.3.pdf?utm_source=perplexity
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