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Re: Professional Footballer
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 September 25 07:45 BST (UK) »
Cricket has just 18 1st class counties.
Football has 92 professional clubs.

Internationally, cricket has 12 full members of the ICC and 98 associate members.
FIFA has 211 member nations, plus 24 "other" nations playing.

It's a difference of scale.

But I echo CaroleW's post - what was the purpose of your post?
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 September 25 08:18 BST (UK) »
The purpose of my post is that the quality of information for FH purposes clearly varies according to.social class.  We are often told these days that there is "no working class" today but that  is absurd.
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Re: Professional Footballer
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 September 25 08:25 BST (UK) »
This is part of an AI response to a prompt about cricket, football and class:

Several key academic books compare the **class origins** of cricket and football in the UK. These works critically explore how both sports developed with distinct class associations, emphasizing their importance within British social history.

## Essential Books

### Different Class: The Untold Story of English Cricket by Duncan Stone
- Focuses on how class structures and the maintenance of class order shaped cricket from its recreational roots up to the professional game, providing in-depth analysis of class distinctions within cricket and frequent references to football as a comparative sport.[1][2][3]

### Sport and the British: A Modern History by Richard Holt
- A foundational academic text covering the history of sport in Britain, with extensive analysis on how football and cricket emerged from unique social circumstances and became identified with different social classes.[4]

### Sports and Social Class in Great Britain. Football, Rugby, Cricket by Anja Schwanhäußer (Grin Verlag)
- This monograph and its related book examine the development and popularity of cricket, football, and rugby, focusing on their association with various social classes throughout British history.[5][6]

### Classes and Cultures: England 1918–1951 by Ross McKibbin (see chapter "The Sporting Life")
- Contains a highly-cited chapter on British national sports, including cricket and football, and their relationships with distinct social classes, as well as factors that promoted or constrained their mass following.[7]

## Further Academic Reference

- Mike Marqusee's Anyone But England (referenced in reviews) is a politically attuned analysis of cricket in relation to English identity, class, and exclusion, drawing direct comparisons to football in terms of popular culture and class issues.[3]

These books are regarded as leading academic sources for understanding the complex interplay between **sports, social class, and British identity**, providing comprehensive comparative insight into **cricket and football**.

Sources
[1] Different Class: The Untold Story of English Cricket https://repeaterbooks.com/product/different-class-the-untold-story-of-english-cricket/
[2] Cricket's Class Wars https://tribunemag.co.uk/2022/01/cricket-sport-class-history-duncan-stone-book-review
[3] The class and culture war at the heart of English cricket https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/book-review-different-class-the-class-and-culture-war-at-the-heart-of-english-cricket-1299597
[4] Sport and the British: A Modern History - Richard Holt https://books.google.com/books/about/Sport_and_the_British.html?id=vtChCoG6veMC
[5] Sports and social class in Great Britain. Football, Rugby, ... https://www.grin.com/document/304713
[6] Sports and social class in Great Britain. Football, Rugby, Cricket ... https://books.google.com/books/about/Sports_and_social_class_in_Great_Britain.html?id=PdmRCgAAQBAJ
[7] The Sporting Life | Classes and Cultures: England 1918-1951 https://academic.oup.com/book/26957/chapter/196126485
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