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Newspaper images
« on: Sunday 07 September 25 16:21 BST (UK) »
Hi - I'm in the process of putting together a history of my home town mainly for the education and benefit (hopefully) of my grandchildren.
I have a number of newspaper images (mainly buildings & street views) and I'm wondering if someone could recommend a simple program that would enhance these types of images. 
I'm attaching a couple of examples. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 September 25 09:31 BST (UK) »
Hi, Keith. Looks like not many people are looking at this sub-board lately.

To try to answer your question: I guess you’re wanting to convert the images to a clean black & white, and smooth out those lines without losing too much detail. Any free app should be able to do those things. GIMP is probably the best free one around, albeit with a steep learning curve if you want to get right into restoring; but it shouldn’t take too long to learn how to use a few of its basic tools.

To take it further—if you’re wanting to really sharpen the images as well…

Traditional apps can’t effectively both smooth and sharpen the one image without a lot of painstaking manual work. Smoother means less sharp, sharper means less smooth.

Enter AI. Whereas traditional tools manipulate existing pixels, AI tools make up new pixels, so that, potentially, they can both smooth and sharpen an image at the same time. However, to date, it seems most companies producing AI apps design their tools to create images that look great but at the cost of only resembling (more or less) the original rather than restoring it. Only the more expensive ones seem to aim to actually restore images using AI.

So, have a look at some of the free and/or cheap apps online, download one or two and give them a run, bearing in mind that further improvements will probably only come at the cost of more work or more money.

And of course, post any you’re not happy with on here to see what restorers can do with them. ;D

Peter
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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 September 25 11:12 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Peter for your reply.

I will take your advice and give them a go. I not very technical minded so have replied on the generous restorers (like yourself) here to have improved my family photos.

I have assumed that the sort of images I am now looking to improve (street scenes, building etc) and not really what the photo restoration forum is designed for?

Thanks again
Keith

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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 September 25 11:42 BST (UK) »
 Keith, sorry if I misunderstood your intention. I'm sure the restorers on here would consider any type photo as fair game. :)
Peter
Convicts: COSIER (1791); LEADBEATER (1791); SINGLETON (& PARKINSON) (1792); STROUD (1793); BARNES (aka SYDNEY) (1800); DAVIS (1804); CLARK (1806); TYLER (1810); COWEN (1818); ADAMS[ON] (1821); SMITH (1827); WHYBURN (1827); HARBORNE (1828).
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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 September 25 11:51 BST (UK) »
I will give GIMP a try and some of the AI programs to see how I fair.

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Keith

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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 September 25 12:59 BST (UK) »
If you are scanning originals, scan them at as high a dpi as possible.
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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 September 25 13:28 BST (UK) »
If you are scanning originals, scan them at as high a dpi as possible.
I have to disagree with this statement. Photographs in newspapers and magazines are reproduced by a method called halftone screening. Put simply this reduces the image to a series of regularly spaced dots and it is the size of the dot of ink which converts the level of blackness in the printed image. Scanning also operates in much the same way, by taking measurements of brightness levels at pre-determined distances (the dpi in Dublin's reply). If there is a mismatch between the spacing of dots in the source image (known as lines per inch or lpi) which can range between 85 and 185 lpi, and the scanner (dpi) then this will create interference patterns which shows as lighter and darker bands across the scanned result, and thus actually degrades the image rather than improving it. 

The solution is to use software to determine the lpi in the source image and then scan using an exact multiple of the lpi. What is certainly a good idea is save the scanned image in a lossless format such as tiff, and don't use .jpg, as the compression involved can negate the value of a quality scan.

You can read more about the whole process here: Wikipedia

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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 September 25 10:14 BST (UK) »
Had a go at the first one of your images, Keith. :)
Peter
Convicts: COSIER (1791); LEADBEATER (1791); SINGLETON (& PARKINSON) (1792); STROUD (1793); BARNES (aka SYDNEY) (1800); DAVIS (1804); CLARK (1806); TYLER (1810); COWEN (1818); ADAMS[ON] (1821); SMITH (1827); WHYBURN (1827); HARBORNE (1828).
Commoners: DOUGAN (1844); FORD (1849); JOHNSTON (1850); BEATTIE (& LONG) (1856); BRICKLEY (1883).
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Re: Newspaper images
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 September 25 10:19 BST (UK) »
Wow! that is an unexpected bonus. What a great improvement - thanks so much Peter

Regards
Keith