Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London

[Natalia Bruce]

Hi Milliepede,

That's interesting. Other families members believe he was a passenger on the boat to NZ, suggesting he would have been on the passenger list. We located the passenger list for the 22 May 1924 sailing from Southampton to Auckland and it refers to a Mr J Hickey, 18 years from the Irish Free State. My mother-in-law has a looseleaf booklet saying John was born in London in 1905, but raised in Ireland.

The above could tie in with the birth certificate of John Michael Hickey born on 1.6.1905 in Mortlake, London, whose mother was Catherine Hickey (nee McGrath) because McGrath is a family name.

Where did you find out that the first name of Mr J Hickey on the 22 May 1924 boat was John?

Many thanks

[Natalia Bruce]

Hi,
Thanks all. Supposing the John Hickey who went to NZ on 22/5/1924 (maybe John Michael Hickey born 1/6/1905 in Mortlake, London) is my mother-in-law's father's name and by 20.9.1929 he was travelling under the name of John Hickisey (as per passenger list on Ulimaroa from Wellington to Sydney), that implies he changed his name between these 2 dates for some reason.
ChatGPT suggests a person travelling in 1929 would usually need a passport to travel from New Zealand to Australia.
I think worth us checking with NZ BDM if John officially changed his name.
Not sure if there was any likely way of obtaining a passport in the name of John Hickisey to travel from NZ to Australia without officially changing name (?)

[Biggles50]

DNA.

Only via the use of DNA tests can relationships be validated.

Relying solely on documents and paper records do not prove biological relationships.

Time and time again people have been researching their Family Tree and then when they take a DNA test they find that they have close biological relatives that they did not know exist.

I am one such person, nearly 20 years researching, then a series of DNA tests revealed my Dad was not my Biological Father.  This in turn revealed that my Great Grandparents had their first child who was born to the Irish couple out of wedlock and was “adopted”, yet the certificates and documents showed Grandfather to have totally different parents.

[Dundee]

ChatGPT suggests a person travelling in 1929 would usually need a passport to travel from New Zealand to Australia.
I think worth us checking with NZ BDM if John officially changed his name.
Not sure if there was any likely way of obtaining a passport in the name of John Hickisey to travel from NZ to Australia without officially changing name (?)

Before 1949 there was no such thing as NZ or Australian citizenship, we were all just British Subjects.  There were no laws around name changes, you could use any name you chose as long as it wasn't in order to commit fraud.

Debra 

[Milliepede]

Hi Natalia

The name John is from the shipping record on Ancestry. 

[Dundee]

Is his last address in the UK supposed to be Duarrigle Castle, Cullen?

Debra 

[Spelk]

That John HICKEY travelling on the Remuera said he was a Farmer. I cannot figure out where had had lived. I guess the ships Purser was just guessing the spelling of some place he had never hear of spoken with a thick accent.
how about the Jno HICKEY on the Tuinui which sailed from Southampton to Wellington on 17 July 1927.
3rd class passengers
Ticket   Name                Last Address                                  Job        age
285      Thos MURPHY  Mounteain, Knacknaga Co Cork   Labourer        31
286      Jno HICKEY                                  do                     do            18
do        Timothy do                                   do                     do            24

If Kate McGRATH had travelled to London after 1901 and returned to Ireland before 1911 then that would explain why we have been unable to pin her down.

PS looking on a map Mounteain is just north of Knocknagree in north west Cork near to the border with Kerry.

PPS - but that age for John wouls give his birth about 1909 which is too far out. There were an awful lot of HICKEYs in Ireland.