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Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« on: Monday 01 September 25 18:15 BST (UK) »
I am trying to track down Timothy Baylay 1710-1785 of Stoke Damerel, near Plymouth. I had been looking for a shipwright as his son Richard married the daughter of one, but the counterpart of a lease of 1756 describes him as an innkeeper. His will is nowhere to be found, not in National Archives and Devon Archives suggests it might have been destroyed in the war. He was connected with the building of St Aubyn Chapel. Has anyone got any information or ideas ?

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Re: Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 September 25 19:45 BST (UK) »
if you can access Findmypast, there are several records under his name from 'Devon, Plymouth & West Devon Parish Chest Records'. They appear to be connected to the building of St Aubyn Chapel. The meetings were in his house, the Kings Arms, Fore Street, Plymouth Dock, Stoke Damerel.

One of the records from 1792 mentions the will & probate of Timothy. Under the terms of the will, John Baylay, the executor and residuary legatee, inherited seat no. 46 on the ground floor of the chapel. John made an indenture with Charles Jolly, shipwright, and John Gilbert, butcher, which assigned the seat to them.

Some info here on the Devon Wills Project
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/DevonWillsProject/Article-DFH
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 September 25 09:53 BST (UK) »
Dear osprey, infinite thanks for your most informative reply, splendid to know the name of Timothy's inn. The marriage between Timothy and Betty puzzles me, as I have Elizabeth Trenizon as his wife, although I have not been able to confirm this. I will follow up all your clues.
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Re: Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 September 25 15:47 BST (UK) »
This snippet comes up on Google Books:

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....Timothy Bayley known by the name or Sign of the Kings Arms in Plymouth Dock and proof was duly made before us on Oath and otherwise That Notice in Writing was fixed up at the Dock Gate of his Majesty's Yard and at the Town Hall of the ...

Page 233 of "The Case of Requisition
In Re a Petition of Right of De Keyser's Royal Hotel Limited. De Keyser's Royal Hotel Limited V. the King
By Leslie Frederic Scott, Sir Leslie Frederic Scott, Alfred Hildesley · 1920"
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Re: Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 September 25 15:58 BST (UK) »
Thank ou very much indeed for that snippet. I had looked on Google Books but only under the name of Baylay, which of course was very likely to have spelling differences. Naive of me !

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Re: Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 September 25 19:12 BST (UK) »
If you compare the signature on the marriage bond and the one here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6CB6-99F1?lang=en
looks a match considering the 40 odd years in between.

This is the piece which refers to his will
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6CB6-QKHN?lang=en
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 04:42 BST (UK) »
Is this the same Timothy BAYLEY?:

June 12, 1769 - June 14, 1769
Publication: Whitehall Evening Post

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Re: Timothy Baylay 1710- 1785, innkeeper ?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 09:47 BST (UK) »
That is so kind of you, but although it would be fascinating to find such an esoteric side to my ancestor I fear it is a different man. I imagine that for astronomers his name would have been spelt correctly. But I am very grateful for your interest
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