Dating family group

[Milliepede]

Would love some help dating this one please.

The location and (probable) family are known so have found them on census but without knowing an approximate year can’t work out which family members they are.
Thinking they could be siblings rather than parents and children?

Any help with date or ages gratefully received. 

[McGroger]

This one seems to have dropped out of sight, so I'm just moving it up for others to notice. Meanwhile, my (uneducated) guess would be late 1890s.
Peter

[Wiggy]

Looks like a pretty reasonable guess to me!       I'd have guessed the same.

Wiggy

[Milliepede]

Fantastic thank you both.  That is exactly where I was hoping it would be to enable me to name the people in the photo.

Could you have a guess at the ages of the sitters please?

I am hoping the youngest is my husband’s grandmother who was a month old in 1891. 

The 1891 children were

Frederick 19
Eleanor 15
Margaret 11
James 9
Lizzie 7
Edward 3
Dau 1 month

[McGroger]

My first guess, without studying the ages you give for 1891, is--left to right--12, 8, 16, 19. Looking at your ages, this would mean they could be: Edward, husband's grandmother, James and Margaret, with Lizzie not represented (unless the girl on the right is more like 15 than my estimate of 19).
Peter
Added: Perhaps if you have knowledge of any of the children marrying or dying during the 1890s it might help in narrowing them down.

[sparrett]

My estimate left to right.

13, 8, 19, 21.

Sue

[Neale1961]

The 1891 children were

Frederick 19
Eleanor 15
Margaret 11
James 9
Lizzie 7
Edward 3
Dau 1 month

I think the photo is of the 4 younger children, taken in the later part of the 1890s.
The youngest girl about 6 years, Edward about 10. The older girl I think is mid-teens - still some childish "chubbiness" about her face and hands, and not yet wearing a long skirt. James is at that late-teenage when boys become long and lanky, but masculine features and physic are not fully developed.

[sparrett]

It may have been interesting to see more clearly the pants on the boy at left.

someone will know more but, I think long pants were not worn by boys until 13 or 14.
Is there a wider margin to the photo?

Anything on the back?

Sue

[Milliepede]

Absolutely nothing on the back I’m afraid.

The boy on the left has no bare skin showing if that helps.  Just a dark colour down to the ground which could be trousers or socks.

Nobody has died before 1901.  Eleanor married in 1899 and Margaret in 1911. 

Frederick 29
James 19
Elizabeth 17
Edward 13
Julia 9

Incidentally the 1891 for Frederick is noted “disabled by rheumatism”
He remained single at home with his parents and died in 1913