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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #27 on: Monday 01 September 25 12:45 BST (UK) »
Kathleen Battle buried 22 July 1977, Gorton Cemetery
Grave details, others seem to include her Redfearn parents, and Lesley Florence Carr, buried 13 August 1968 (died age 13) :(
https://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenLocDetails.aspx?ID=181583

Has this possible death been mentioned a bit of a long shot using the link above there is this entry - you need to register and buy credits to view further details

Burial 18/06/1996   Alan Carr   Gorton Cemetery   Y Consecrated 587
When you click on view details there's another person with a different surname, same Grave number Position 1 (buried 1991), he's position 2

Their entries are on findagrave but no age has been given  ???
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/136170378/alan-carr

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tyy/ - cannot find the 1991 death entry on FreeBMD with that surname perhaps the surname has been mistranscribed  ???
 :-\ There is a death for a person with the same first and middle name in 1991 Stockport but wrong surname  :-\
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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #28 on: Monday 01 September 25 13:02 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ladyhawk link=topic=893596.msg7678925#msg7678925 date=1756727132

18/06/[b
1996[/b]   Alan Carr   Gorton Cemetery   Y Consecrated 587
When you click on view details there's another person with a different surname, same Grave number Position 1 (buried 1991), he's position 2

Their entries are on findagrave but no age has been given  ???
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/136170378/alan-carr

Someone has left flowers for Alan Carr's grave on the findagrave site and it looks like it possible to sent them a message

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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #29 on: Monday 01 September 25 13:30 BST (UK) »
With burial of Alan Carr at Gorton shown as 18/6/1996 searched indexes for Jun 1996 and we have:

Alan Carr born 29/1/1932 death Jun.1996   Dwyfor   Gwynedd

As birth certificate for Mar.qtr. 1932 has been ordered if birth dates match we have our man.  So died in Wales but buried back in Manchester (Gorton).

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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #30 on: Monday 01 September 25 14:04 BST (UK) »
With burial of Alan Carr at Gorton shown as 18/6/1996 searched indexes for Jun 1996 and we have:

Alan Carr born 29/1/1932 death Jun.1996   Dwyfor   Gwynedd

As birth certificate for Mar.qtr. 1932 has been ordered if birth dates match we have our man.  So died in Wales but buried back in Manchester (Gorton).


Well found Annette  :) Fingers crossed its the correct Alan - I didn't spot the entry on FreeBMD

The details are on Anc*y England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Alan Carr.
Death Age   64
Birth Date   29 Jan 1932
Registration Date   Jun 1996
Registration District   Dwyfor
Inferred County   Gwynedd
Register Number   10
District and Subdistrict   8531
Entry Number   2
 
Also good spot Kay99 the person has surname Carr so probably related

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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #31 on: Monday 01 September 25 14:21 BST (UK) »
This tree suggests that Alan remarried after his split with Kathleen     

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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #32 on: Monday 01 September 25 14:45 BST (UK) »
This tree suggests that Alan remarried after his split with Kathleen     

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tyz/

Lancashire BMD Marriage 1962 Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended
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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #33 on: Monday 01 September 25 19:58 BST (UK) »
I have now discovered why the death in 1996 does not appear in the GRO index, although it does manage to appear in the Ancestry and Findmypast record sets derived from the same data.  Firstly, it does not appear in FreeBMD because they are only about 10% of the way through transcribing deaths for 1996.  However, it has always been possible to search the scans from which FreeBMD is compiled.  I found this entry in the file numbered 1996D-C-036 i.e. the 36th page of surnames beginning C for Deaths in 1996.

The alphabetical list does not repeat the surname when it is the same.  However, after the first few Carr entries we have a subheading "Carr." for Alan's entry, followed by subheading "Carr" for the remainder of the page.  So our Alan has a full stop entered at the end of his surname.  If you then search the GRO index for "Carr." he is there.

I will report an error to the GRO!

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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #34 on: Monday 01 September 25 20:34 BST (UK) »
Well done everybody, let's hope the date matches up!
And more thanks to Molly for solving the GRO index mystery.

Burial 18/06/1996   Alan Carr   Gorton Cemetery   Y Consecrated 587
When you click on view details there's another person with a different surname, same Grave number Position 1 (buried 1991), he's position 2

Their entries are on findagrave but no age has been given  ???
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/136170378/alan-carr

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tyy/ - cannot find the 1991 death entry on FreeBMD with that surname perhaps the surname has been mistranscribed  ???

Eva May Brijoa, buried 12 September 1991.
I can't find her in the free index on ancestry, England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2024.
There is though Eva May Rrlisa, possibly buried the same date, but they say at Philips Park! That could be wrong though! Age is indexed as 62 (born 1929)

Brijoa, Rrlisa, surely can't be right...

There is a death for a person with the same first and middle name in 1991 Stockport but wrong surname  :-\

Do you mean Eva May Briscoe, age 62?
There is a death notice for Eva in the Manchester Evening News, 11 September 1991, mentioning lots of family.
It says she is going to be buried at Gorton Cemetery on 12 September, at 2.45pm...

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Re: Alan Carr b1931
« Reply #35 on: Monday 01 September 25 22:39 BST (UK) »
Yes well done Molly!  :)

Jon that was the death entry I referred to even though deceased I didn’t mention her name as I wasn’t sure if there was a connection to Alan.
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