Alan Carr b1931

[jonwarrn]

Kathleen Battle buried 22 July 1977, Gorton Cemetery
Grave details, others seem to include her Redfearn parents, and Lesley Florence Carr, buried 13 August 1968 (died age 13)
https://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenLocDetails.aspx?ID=181583

[MollyC]

FreeBMD Birth:
Carr, Lesley F   Redfearn    Manchester    10e 641    MarQ 1955

[MollyC]

There are two Battle/Redfearn births: Ashton[under Lyne] 1964 and Manchester 1970.

[MollyC]

Reply #15

Alan Carr son of James could have been born December 1931 as his registration is March quarter 1932

There are three possible deaths of an Al(l)an Carr born 1931, none local to Manchester:

CARR, ALAN       1931 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2002 in DURHAM NORTHERN  (4401C)  Reg DN3C  Entry Number 71
CARR, ALAN       1931 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q4/2003 in SUNDERLAND  (0581B)  Reg B69E  Entry Number 196
CARR, ALAN       1931 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2011 in LINCOLNSHIRE  (609-1J)  Entry Number 504890324

ADDED:  There are four possible births in Co. Durham to match these, none in Lincolnshire.

[Annette7]

Thanks for all this help, very grateful

We know the marriage was 31 July 1954 to Kathleen, which means: CARR,  Allan    REDFEARN   Manchester    10e   855       Sep 1954.
He signed his name with double LL in Allen.
and I would guess and then buy the GRO birth of Carr, Alan     Mar 1932 at Manchester South  
but NOT the Allan T one.

What was his father James occupation?
Were the witnesses related ?

Edit - Please let us know how you get on when you receive the digital birth image and do you know when and where his wife Kathleen died?

I feel I should mention that it's not possible to get a PDF of Alan Carrs birth in 1932 - it's certificate only.

[amondg]

So if Kathleen remarried 1964 then we need a death prior to 1964 for Alan or divorce papers.

Perhaps if the answer is divorce it made the papers?

[Ratty2]

Many thanks for all these contributions.

"I feel I should mention that it's not possible to get a PDF of Alan Carrs birth in 1932 - it's certificate only" - yes, indeed. I've ordered a copy today but it will be about six weeks before it reaches me.

I consulted my friend who agrees with the Littler connection. I think we should concentrate on that link and ignore the Allan Thomas person.

Re: " What is known about the circumstances of the death of Alan who married Kathleen, and about her death?  Perhaps they emigrated, perhaps he is still alive aged 93." No migration apart from my friend who is a daughter to Allan named Beverley. Her father, Allan, died from lung cancer and is therfore most certainly no longer living.

I may be able to check out the Kathleen (Redfearn) Battle reference tomorrow.

Re: Ladyhawk, "What was his father James occupation?" = Park Keeper (1954 MC) and the 1938 Census adds he worked with the Municiple Parks department.

[mckha489]

Your friend is the 1957 birth? To Kathleen?
So does she not know roughly when & where Alan died?

[amondg]

Lesley F Carr  1955- 1968 who is buried with Kathleen Battle is the child of Alan and Kathleen

nee Redfearn, birth reg. 1955.