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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 September 25 17:38 BST (UK) »
What would be the meaning of the ticket being cancelled? I googled but didn’t get a clear answer; I must admit I don’t know much about merchant navy records at all.

Interesting that he might have been issued a new number, I’ll have a look at that later, thank you for the suggestion!

The navy record isn’t him, but thank you. His parents were William Cossey and Isabel nee Moore who lived in Ditchingham and Kirby Cane in Norfolk.
Buckinghamshire: Bignell, Talbot, Janes, Gibbs, Saunders
Cambrigeshire: Cockerton, Sharpe, Purkis
Hertfordshire: Rolph, Marvell, Pateman, Hornsby, Gall, Corkett
Norfolk: Crowfoot, Randlesome
London: Wyatt, Yarroll
Somerset: Date, Hodder, Letheby, Webb
Suffolk: Palfrey, Yallop, Kerry, Codling, Steward, Pettitt
Ireland & Canada: Hanna, Teel, Cowin, Switzer

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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 September 25 18:19 BST (UK) »
What would be the meaning of the ticket being cancelled? I googled but didn’t get a clear answer; I must admit I don’t know much about merchant navy records at all.

Interesting that he might have been issued a new number, I’ll have a look at that later, thank you for the suggestion!

The navy record isn’t him, but thank you. His parents were William Cossey and Isabel nee Moore who lived in Ditchingham and Kirby Cane in Norfolk.

I have come acrross this record, hence my previous post. Maybe her name was Isabel Sarah or Sarah Isabel ? Or maybe they were sisters and William remarried?

Sarah Moore
Mentioned in the Record of Samuel Cossey (Sarah Moore's Son)

Sarah Moore person details
Name   Sarah Moore
Sex   F
Sarah Moore's Spouses and Children


Samuel Cossey   Son   M         
Samuel Cossey person details
Name   Samuel Cossey
Sex   Male
Father's Name   William Cossey
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Sarah Moore
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   23 Sep 1818
Event Place   Beccles, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   Beccles, Suffolk, England


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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 September 25 19:04 BST (UK) »
A transcription error must have crept in somewhere, the images are on Ancestry for Suffolk now and it’s definitely Isabel! So I suspect that’s another man. Cossey wasn’t an uncommon name in that region.
Buckinghamshire: Bignell, Talbot, Janes, Gibbs, Saunders
Cambrigeshire: Cockerton, Sharpe, Purkis
Hertfordshire: Rolph, Marvell, Pateman, Hornsby, Gall, Corkett
Norfolk: Crowfoot, Randlesome
London: Wyatt, Yarroll
Somerset: Date, Hodder, Letheby, Webb
Suffolk: Palfrey, Yallop, Kerry, Codling, Steward, Pettitt
Ireland & Canada: Hanna, Teel, Cowin, Switzer

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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 September 25 19:55 BST (UK) »
Interesting that there was also another, a Henry Cossey, only one No. of Register Ticket, number away (different).

I had this before (one Ticket Number away/different) and both had gone together on the same date and had known each other, although Henry Cossey says he was born elsewhere, a relative perhaps?

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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 September 25 21:12 BST (UK) »
His brother?

"SAMUEL COSSEY, b. 1818, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.); d. at sea (Source: PA.). Notes for SAMUEL COSSEY: Went to sea with brother Henry but died within 3 months PA."

The webpage is no longer available unfortunately.

http://indigo.ie/~stevenso/Cossey/5_generations

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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 September 25 21:45 BST (UK) »

The navy record isn’t him, but thank you. His parents were William Cossey and Isabel nee Moore who lived in Ditchingham and Kirby Cane in Norfolk.

His brother?

"SAMUEL COSSEY, b. 1818, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.); d. at sea (Source: PA.). Notes for SAMUEL COSSEY: Went to sea with brother Henry but died within 3 months PA."

The webpage is no longer available unfortunately.

http://indigo.ie/~stevenso/Cossey/5_generations


The website was live circa 4th June 2002 to 11th September 2005 and was crawled (link below to website saved in 2005) the part said:-

Children of WILLIAM COSSEY and ISABELLE MOORE are:

i. ELIZABETH4 COSSEY, b. 1813, Beccles (Source: PA.); d. 1848, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.); m. ROBERT CROWFOOT, 1838, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.).

More About ELIZABETH COSSEY:

Christening: June 18, 1813, Beccles

23. ii. WILLIAM COSSEY, b. 1815, Beccles; d. 1901, Kirby Cane.

24. iii. HENRY COSSEY, b. 1827, Kirby Cane; d. 1906, Dunedin NZ.

iv. RICHARD COSSEY, b. 1809, Beccles (Source: PA.); d. 1812, Beccles (Source: PA.).

v. SAMUEL COSSEY, b. 1818, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.); d. at sea (Source: PA.).

Notes for SAMUEL COSSEY:

Went to sea with brother Henry but died within 3 months PA

vi. STEPHAN COSSEY, b. 1822, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.); d. 1823, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.).

vii. HENRY COSSEY, b. 1824, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.); d. 1828, Kirby Cane (Source: PA.).


Source:
PA can be found on the 'Home' page

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The website was crawled and 24 captures made and here is an archived site reference:-

Capture on 26th May 2005

https://web.archive.org/web/20050526080340/http://indigo.ie:80/~stevenso/Cossey/5_generations.htm

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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 September 25 21:53 BST (UK) »
What would be the meaning of the ticket being cancelled? I googled but didn’t get a clear answer; I must admit I don’t know much about merchant navy records at all.

Interesting that he might have been issued a new number, I’ll have a look at that later, thank you for the suggestion!

The navy record isn’t him, but thank you. His parents were William Cossey and Isabel nee Moore who lived in Ditchingham and Kirby Cane in Norfolk.

Some years ago I spent rather a long time at TNA researching my own merchant navy ancestor. I'm a bit rusty on it now but I know that he had several ticket numbers in the period of time I was researching. Not sure why that was, he did jump ship in Quebec so perhaps he didn't want to admit to being the same person. Apparently it was a common occurrence for seamen to be poached for another ship. To this day I haven't found out how he returned but I do have copies of his records after that with a different ticket number.

This might not be any help to you but don't discount the possibility of other records in addition to the one you have.
Bell, Salter, Street - Devon, Middlesbrough.
Lickess- North Yorkshire, Middlesbrough.
Etherington - North Yorks and Durham.
Barker- North Yorks
Crooks- Durham
Forster- North Yorks/Durham
Newsam, Pattison, Proud - North Yorks.
Timothy, Griffiths, Jones - South Wales

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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 13 September 25 08:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for the replies!

Yes Henry was his brother - the one who emigrated to New Zealand. I’ve seen that website before and corresponded with the lady who ran it quite a few years ago. It seems the descendants of Henry’s New Zealand branch believed that Samuel died at sea - which is why I thought his death likely predated the emigration.

Haven’t had a chance to look at the tickets on FindMyPast yet but that’s this afternoons job!
Buckinghamshire: Bignell, Talbot, Janes, Gibbs, Saunders
Cambrigeshire: Cockerton, Sharpe, Purkis
Hertfordshire: Rolph, Marvell, Pateman, Hornsby, Gall, Corkett
Norfolk: Crowfoot, Randlesome
London: Wyatt, Yarroll
Somerset: Date, Hodder, Letheby, Webb
Suffolk: Palfrey, Yallop, Kerry, Codling, Steward, Pettitt
Ireland & Canada: Hanna, Teel, Cowin, Switzer

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Re: Merchant Seaman lost at sea
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 13 September 25 14:34 BST (UK) »
Well, 303,979 is one of the - I guess many - ticket numbers in BT113 with no details written up at all :(