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19 Bryanston Street, Portman Square
« on: Friday 29 August 25 11:55 BST (UK) »
I am researching the life of Richard Cadman Etches, a wine merchant and later a British spy, who, at some stage, possibly between 1775 and 1815, lived at 19 Bryanston Street, Portman Square. I want to find out the exact dates and details of other occupants, but I am at a loss as to how I can investigate this aspect further, as I don't believe the Land Registry existed in those days. Can anyone help me, please?
Etches, Plant, Nunn

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Re: 19 BRYANSTON STREET, PORTMAN SQUARE
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 August 25 13:02 BST (UK) »
In a 1791 trade directory, Richard C. Etches lived or had commercial premises at 38 Fenchurch street, he belonged to the Carpenter's company and was a brandy merchant
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: 19 Bryanston Street, Portman Square
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 August 25 13:26 BST (UK) »
Just seen your other the thread from years ago on the same person
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=613754.0

Did you ever sort out when he was born? as the age at burial (from Fleet Prison) doesn't match with baptism at Shipston on Stour. The younger Richard Cadman baptised in 1796 is likely to be his nephew. Child of William Etches and Mary nee Haigh. On their marriage licence it says William was of Northampton, so that fits with the list of partners in the King George's Sound company.

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: 19 Bryanston Street, Portman Square
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 August 25 09:38 BST (UK) »
Just seen your other the thread from years ago on the same person
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=613754.0

Did you ever sort out when he was born? as the age at burial (from Fleet Prison) doesn't match with baptism at Shipston on Stour. The younger Richard Cadman baptised in 1796 is likely to be his nephew. Child of William Etches and Mary nee Haigh. On their marriage licence it says William was of Northampton, so that fits with the list of partners in the King George's Sound company.

Yes, I'm convinced that he was baptised on 2nd November 1753 at Shipston-on-Stour, and I believe that there is an error in the burial note and that Richard would have been sixty-three when he died, not fifty-two. Otherwise, he would have been too young to have achieved other actions in his life that I have discovered. I've written a book about him called 'Hero in the Footnotes,' but I'm still interested in trying to piece together some of the missing aspects of his life. The premises at Watling Street and Fenchurch Street were for business, and his home was 19 Bryanston Street.
Etches, Plant, Nunn


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Re: 19 Bryanston Street, Portman Square
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 August 25 11:26 BST (UK) »
There is an advertisement in 1813 of a gardener looking for work who gives their address as 19 Bryanston St Portamn Square. As is usual in these advertisements only initials are given "T M"
Monday,  Jan. 18, 1813
Publication: Morning Post

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Re: 19 Bryanston Street, Portman Square
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 August 25 12:16 BST (UK) »
There is an advertisement in 1813 of a gardener looking for work who gives their address as 19 Bryanston St Portamn Square. As is usual in these advertisements only initials are given "T M"
Monday,  Jan. 18, 1813
Publication: Morning Post

This is interesting. Richard died in Fleet Prison in 1817. There had been a downturn in his fortunes, and he had been in and out of debt for several years. Perhaps 1813 was the time that he was forced to move out of Bryanston Street, leaving his gardener to seek employment elsewhere.
Etches, Plant, Nunn