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Help needed please
« on: Monday 25 August 25 22:00 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

I've currently taken up the task of researching my partner's family who are of Irish origin.

Having only delved into English genealogy, the Irish is proving slightly more tricky.

I'm trying to locate information on various people.

1. Eileen McCusker, her grandmother who died in England in 1975, a newspaper article says she died on the 30th August 1975 the day before her 55th birthday.

I can't find any trace of her in the Irish registry. Her marriage certificate which I located in Eniskillen gives her father's name as John McCusker.

There's no record for a McCusker born on that date, nor variation of the surname can be found that I've located. Any help would be appreciated.

Secondly, Bernard Murphy and Margaret McGahey married in Enniskillen in 1918

His father was James, her father John.

Bernard and Margaret are my partners great grandparents, I'm at a loss as I can't find them in any other records, it gives age as full on the marriage cert, but I'd be interested to go further back.

Any help would be appreciated

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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 August 25 22:35 BST (UK) »
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1. Eileen McCusker, her grandmother who died in England in 1975, a newspaper article says she died on the 30th August 1975 the day before her 55th birthday.
I can't find any trace of her in the Irish registry. Her marriage certificate which I located in Eniskillen gives her father's name as John McCusker.
There's no record for a McCusker born on that date, nor variation of the surname can be found that I've located. Any help would be appreciated.

There's an Ellen McCusker born 1 Sept.1918 with father named John-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1918/01272/1527389.pdf
What's Eileen's residence at the time of her marriage?

For reference here's the marriage of Bernard Murphy & Margaret McGahey-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09719/5526180.pdf
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 August 25 22:42 BST (UK) »
Marriage record for that Ellen's parents list her father as John Joseph McCusker-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09913/5602767.pdf
Here's her father (listed as John) in 1911 with his family-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Ballydoolagh/Lissan/515298/
Same family in 1901-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Ballydoolagh/Lisson/1363630/
Note that John is 18 in 1901 and 19 in 1911!
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 August 25 22:43 BST (UK) »
Hi, this is interesting, I've just looked at the marriage of Eileen and it says

Married 14th Feb 1950 in Enniskillen

Her age was 31 & 4/12ths which would make 1918 right.

Her address at the time of marriage was water street, Enniskillen

Her obituary states she was of Lissan


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 August 25 22:47 BST (UK) »
Eileen and Ellen are both forms of the same name so that, plus age and father's name seems to fit. The mention of Lissan makes it even more likely to be the correct birth registration.
Water St., Enniskillen would have been where she was living when she got married and she might have been living in lodgings, her employer's household, with a relative, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 August 25 22:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you, that makes perfect sense! I agree with all of the information, this would be her

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 August 25 08:08 BST (UK) »
Bernard's address in the 1918 marriage registration was given as Dame Street in Enniskillen and his father was given as James Murphy, a marine dealer.  In that light, the following birth registration for a Bernard Murphy in 1881 has to be a possibility, his mother recorded as Bessie Armstrong:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1881/02841/2041161.pdf

Old photo of Dame Street:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=623241954504386&id=555059637989285&set=a.555089201319662

James Murphy married Elizabeth Armstrong in 1878:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11109/8066068.pdf

That should be enough to enable you to follow up possible siblings, census entries etc.


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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 August 25 08:49 BST (UK) »
This is pretty flimsy stuff, but with a given address of Queen Street Enniskillen and a father named John McGahey in the 1918 marriage registration, I'm guessing that Margaret McGahey may have had a sister named Mary Anne who married a Thomas Keaveney before her in 1913 (Mary Anne Keaveney being one of the witnesses in 1918, the other was a McDonagh):
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09889/5592667.pdf

There was a couple called John McGahey and Mary Anne McDonagh who had a daughter Margaret in Irvinestown in 1882 (also a daughter Catherine in 1884 and an unnamed daughter in 1887):
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1882/02760/2013747.pdf

Just a speculative possibility to note for now until you can rule it in or out.


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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 August 25 10:06 BST (UK) »
I was looking at the same family as gaffy (reply #7) as a possibility.

Maggie McGahey b abt 1883  Co Fermanagh
1901 CENSUS With grandparents James McDonagh and Anne McDonagh
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Irvinestown/Pound_Street/1355388/


Maggie McGahey b abt 1883  Co Fermanagh
1911 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Irvinestown/Pound_Street__Irvinestown_Town_/521419/
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