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John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« on: Monday 25 August 25 13:17 BST (UK) »
Another mystery-the above married my 3rd cousin, 1R, Florence (b 15/12/1905) but by 1939 Register he was absent and Florence was recorded as married but was living with a Thomas Nesbitt born 28 Apr 1880 so much so that some of her children were recorded as Nesbitt?
I know it's a fairly common surname but wonder when and where John was born and what happened to him?
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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 August 25 14:48 BST (UK) »
Could he have been in the Armed forces? Although Florence is recorded as being married, that doesn't necessarily mean she was married to Thomas Nesbitt. There is a 25 year age gap between them, not impossible of course but less likely I would think.

This is all supposition but could Thomas be a family member and the children listed as Nesbitt were Thomas' children but not hers? Do you know Florence's maiden name? Or perhaps he was her employer and she was a live in carer for the children.
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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 August 25 15:15 BST (UK) »
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so much so that some of her children were recorded as Nesbitt?

Have you checked the birth registrations of those children?

The little girl is registered with both surnames and Blake mothers name
The little boy is registered with both surnames and Blake mothers name

The 1926 marriage to John Armstrong would reveal more about him.
I don't suppose he could be Thomas Nesbitt as well could he  :-\

Do you know who the older people are whose names are hidden?
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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 August 25 15:51 BST (UK) »
Do you have the 1926 marriage cert which may give John's age but should also give his occupation plus his fathers details,  You may be able to find him on the 1921 census with that info
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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 August 25 16:00 BST (UK) »
A tree on Ancestry has John Armstrong b 1900 Middlesborough but no evidence to support it.

Suspect they have assumed he is the one on the 1921 census but haven't checked as he married Miriam Houghton in 1927 Rotherham
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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 August 25 16:09 BST (UK) »
Of the 6 children born between 1926 & 1939, only 3 had the name Nesbitt, from 1936 onwards. The 3 born before 1936 were all Armstrong only; the last one born 1933.

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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 August 25 16:34 BST (UK) »
Thomas Nesbitt was b Co Monaghan & died 1940.  Parents William Andrew & Roseanna possibly nee Tierney
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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 August 25 12:51 BST (UK) »
Looks like I'll have to buy the marriage certificate as there is no easier answer.
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Re: John Armstrong married Florence Blake Q2 1926 Middlesbrough
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 August 25 21:58 BST (UK) »
Electoral registers (on ancestry) have
1935
1 Baker Street
Thomas Nesbitt
Florence Armstrong
May Conley

Thomas and Florence there till 1938.
1939
72 Grange Road West
Thomas Nesbitt
Florence Armstrong

Is this Thomas? :-\
Middlesbrough Standard, 20 May 1933
Objected to Wife's Friends
Sarah Nesbitt, the wife of a Grangetown smelter, was granted a separation order by which her husband Thomas Nesbitt, was ordered to pay her £2 per week for the maintenance of herself and two children. It was stated that Nesbitt earned £8 10s. per week, although at the present he was only working one week in two. When he was in regular employment he told the court that he gave his wife £6 or £7 per week for household expenses. He objected though to her present ‘‘friends” in Grangetown, but would be quite willing to go back to her if she would get away from them.

Is Sarah the lady at 52 Vickers Steet, Eston with two probable sons in the 1939 Register? No husband around.
Sarah Nesbitt, originally said  born 14 Mar 1881 (can't read what it is altered to), Married, Unpaid Housework

Thomas Nesbitt was b Co Monaghan & died 1940

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Thomas Nesbitt death registered in Cleveland (covers Eston), not Middlesbrough
Dec 1940 Cleveland 9d 919
Nesbitt, Thomas   
Age 60   

Evening Gazette, 18 Nov 1940
R.I.P. NESBITT.—On November 16th, Thomas, beloved husband of Sarah Nesbitt. Cortege leaves 52, Vickers-street, Grangetown, Tuesday, 9.45 a.m., for Requiem Mass in St.Mary's Church. Interment at Eston Cemetery. Friends please accept this (the only) intimation.