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Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« on: Sunday 24 August 25 06:26 BST (UK) »
In case anyone has FS, here's the link with sources, etc: https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/MHJR-D16

Bridget Donohoe, born 19 April 1846 in Feugh Bishops.
Marries William Maguire 12 June 1868 at Saint Mary's Staghall
Moves to Drummullagh, has 7 kids with William at Drummullagh
William dies Dec 1879, with an 8th kid on the way.
Son Terence dies, 17 Oct 1880, still in Drummullagh
Mother Bridget dies, 11 July 1898, Bridget Maguire listed as informant and residing back in Feugh Bishops.
Father Patrick dies, 25 Jan 1900, Bridget Maguire listed as informant and still residing in Feugh Bishops
Bridget Maguire Inherients £49 22 May 1900

After this, I cannot find anything on her. No death record, no 1901 census record.

Any help tracking her down would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 August 25 06:49 BST (UK) »
I gather OP may descend from a son who emigrated to the US?

When someone "disppappears" like that the answer is usually one of two possibilities:
- Died, or
- Emigrated.

As she already had family in the US, have you looked in the US?

Were there children still in Ireland - did they also disappear?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 August 25 06:56 BST (UK) »
That's correct. Her son, my ancestor, emigrated to the US at some point between 1889 and 1898. I've had very limited luck tracing her children or siblings in the US. I've traced 2 of her other children to NYC as well. I have not traced any of her children.

Tracing common names in NYC is a nightmare.

You think it's likely she took her £49 inheritance and hopped on the next ship to the US and missed the 1901 census?

If she died, I would expect to find a matching death record... Is there a potential it wasn't recorded, even after 1900?

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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 August 25 07:00 BST (UK) »

You think it's likely she took her £49 inheritance and hopped on the next ship to the US and missed the 1901 census?

If she died, I would expect to find a matching death record... Is there a potential it wasn't recorded, even after 1900?

If she had multiple children in the US, and she was a widow, then I think it quite possible that she emigrated.

Is it any easier to use US immigration records if you know other family members who might have travelled with her?

It is entirely possible for a death to go unregistered after 1900. For example, I have a great-g-grandmother who is neither in the 1901 census, nor death registration - but died 1907, in Ireland.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 August 25 07:13 BST (UK) »
Here is a link for the townland of Feugh (Bishops).
https://www.townlands.ie/ga/cavan/loughtee-lower/drumlane/milltown/feugh-bishops/

It notes that Feugh is also known as Drumalla.

Drummullagh is a neighboring townland of Feugh (Bishops).
https://www.townlands.ie/ga/cavan/loughtee-lower/drumlane/milltown/drummullagh/#borders
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 August 25 07:24 BST (UK) »
Pat Donohoe in 1833 Tythe Valuation of Feugh (Bishops)
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587434/004587434_00277.pdf

JAMES Maguire in 1833 tythe valuation of Drummullagh - new family name?
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587434/004587434_00268.pdf
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 August 25 07:28 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately, I haven't found any church burial records. RootsIreland does not have any: https://www.rootsireland.ie/cavan-genealogy/cavan-roman-catholic-records/

I found an ship arrival record for Bridget McGuire (spelled different), age 52, from Cavan in May 1901. Even listed as a widow. Interesting she was traveling with another Bridget McGuire, age 23, also from Cavan.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TH-LSRN-9?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJFK7-T6P&action=view&cc=1368704&lang=en&groupId=

Also, a possible detention: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TH-LSRP-L?view=fullText&keywords=Bridget%2CMcGuire%20Bridget&lang=en&groupId=

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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 August 25 07:32 BST (UK) »
Pat Donohoe in 1833 Tythe Valuation of Feugh (Bishops)
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587434/004587434_00277.pdf

JAMES Maguire in 1833 tythe valuation of Drummullagh - new family name?
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587434/004587434_00268.pdf
Pretty likely that Pat was Bridget's father.

That James has been a bit of a mystery to me. Bridget Donohoe's husband, William, was born in Creeny. After their marriage, I believe they moved to Drummullagh and started their family. I cannot find any Maguires in Drummullagh in the Griffith Valuation books.

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Re: Help with Bridget Donohoe near Miltown
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 August 25 07:41 BST (UK) »

Pretty likely that Pat was Bridget's father.

That James has been a bit of a mystery to me. Bridget Donohoe's husband, William, was born in Creeny. After their marriage, I believe they moved to Drummullagh and started their family. I cannot find any Maguires in Drummullagh in the Griffith Valuation books.

What was William's occupation on the chidren's birth registrations? GV for Cavan was published 1857, so before William would have appeared.

It is often possible to figure out who had inherited or was occupying the properties listed in GV, by comparison with names and land area in the tythe valuation. But you have to allow for the fact that tythe land area is almost always given in Irish acres, while GV is in English acres.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area