Really Stuck and need help

[Little Nell]

ScotlandsPeople behaving again.

More children:
1800 Donald
1803 Alexander,
1809 Charles
1812 John
1814 James
1821 William

And I really don't think an 8 year old boy would have been married and fathering children.

Nell

(Edited after posting)

[JacobusV]

This is my problem, with my 4 times Great Grandparents Robert Mcgregor and Helen Porteous, others on Ancestry have multiple different parents for Robert, they seem to agree that it was a James McGregor for the father, but for the mother they have a Janet Ritchie and a Janet Henderson. It's Familysearch researchers themselves that have Roberts parents as James McGregor and Janet Ritchie, not a random person who inputted the connection.

[jonwarrn]

Have you looked at the death in Perth in 1895 for Helen Porteus / Helen McGregor (age 75)?

Helen McGregor / Helen Porteous
Age 75
Mother's Maiden Name Adams
RD Perth
Ref 387 / 227

Is she with her mother in Perth in 1861? (This is cobbled together from free info only)
Helen Porteous Head 60 born Fife Falkirk
Helen McGregor Daughter 40 born Midlothian Dalkeith

Death of Helen Porteous / Helen Adams in 1861, Perth Burgh, age 63
Mother's maiden surname Reay
Ref 387 / 1 / 378

More info on FamilySearch, but mother is Gray here!
Helen Porteous
Widow
Age 63
Died 9 August 1861, Perth
Spouse Robert Porteous
Father John Adams
Mother Mary Gray Adams
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X957-V1KW

[David Nicoll]

Hi, there is nothing special about FamilySearch researchers.

The only thing you can believe is research done by yourself.

I have had more than a few families I have built who look very convincing, only to discover their Death Certificate demonstrating the as single, with the Informant as someone who would definitely know.

The Leithead link sounds important, can you clarify it?

Ps Sorry that should have been Isabella Craig not William in Newton.

[Little Nell]

FamilySearch trees can be edited by anyone who has an account.  The researchers are not necessarily professionals.  They are trying to build a family tree, just like you.

I think many of us here on RootsChat would advise time and time again, don't take anything you find while meandering through online trees as necessarily true. 

The ages of parents, especially mothers, should be considered carefully.  A family history researcher who was also a retired doctor helped me work out whether it was likely that a woman of more advanced years (based on possible baptisms) was likely to be the correct mother.  If there is doubt, look for other possible candidates where the age is more likely.  The problem of course arises when not every record has survived.  This is often true in Scotland.  Perth OPR (Church of Scotland) don't have deaths/burials recorded at all in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Nell

[Little Nell]

Well, I decided to use some credits to look at the marriage entry for Robert & Helen in 1835 in Dundee.  Robert was described as a ropemaker and I think it says that Helen was the daughter of David Porteous.

Nell

[jonwarrn]

Well, I decided to use some credits to look at the marriage entry for Robert & Helen in 1835 in Dundee.  Robert was described as a ropemaker and I think it says that Helen was the daughter of David Porteous.

There is
David Porteous + Helen Adams
5 Nov 1810, St Cuthbert's


I did wonder if the husband's name was correct on that 1861 death cert.
The ages of both Helens in later records may be a little unreliable?

So Robert McGregor wasn't a blacksmith after all?

[Neale1961]

This is my problem, with my 4 times Great Grandparents Robert Mcgregor and Helen Porteous, others on Ancestry have multiple different parents for Robert, they seem to agree that it was a James McGregor for the father, but for the mother they have a Janet Ritchie and a Janet Henderson. It's Familysearch researchers themselves that have Roberts parents as James McGregor and Janet Ritchie, not a random person who inputted the connection.

No, your problem is that you have not looked at any documentation.
You refuse to look at any of the easily available sources.
You have continually ignored all of the information presented to you on this thread, and have disregarded all leads and advice given here.

[JacobusV]

Neale, I have a young family (children aged 8 and 6) and responsibilities and a full time job, I study the family tree when I can, I cannot study it for hours at a time. I don't have that luxury. I appreciate all the help given and will look at the information and act upon it when I am able to.

J