Really Stuck and need help

[Little Nell]

Robert's father Robert had died by 1841 when the census for Perth shows the Widow Porteous (age 60, not born in county) with the Widow MacGregor (aged 23 and also not born in county) and 3 year old Robert.

Nell

(Sorry, just realised that Neale1961 posted a link to the 1841 census a couple of days ago  )

[Little Nell]

Do you have documentary evidence of Robert's (b 1838) death?

There is a death listed in the index for a Robert McGregor in 1912 on the Isle of Bute aged 74, mother's maiden name Porteous.  558 / 35  Rothesay

Nell

[JacobusV]

Hi there

I can confirm that the Robert who died in Rothesay, Isle of Bute was my 3 times Great Grandfather, the death is registered by a Jessie Hill, Jessie Hill was my great great grandmothers married name, formerly Jessie Ann McGregor. Please see attached.

[jonwarrn]

Is that daughter the Jessie Hill who died 1917, Bridgeton, age 57?
Burial records (not great ones) for her at Sandymount Cemetery
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-N3ZJ-N9XQ-W

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1G-R5T2

Lair book for O / 533
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-N3ZJ-NQ4N

[jonwarrn]

Lair book for O / 533
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-N3ZJ-NQ4N

Jessie's husband David Hill, daughter Margaret Struthers?
Webb grandchildren?

[JacobusV]

Yes, it's the same Jessie Hill. Her daughter Jessie Hill married my Great Grandfather Eli Webb, whose family I've had helping researching on another thread on this forum.

J

[JacobusV]

The Hills were originally know nas Hillock and emigrated to Scotland from Ireland. I've also been building my tree on Wikitree and I added my 4 times great grandmother Helen Porteous to it, someone then deleted it saying it was wrong. My DNA test on Ancestry along with cousins descended from her with reasonably close centigrams of DNA begs to differ.

[Neale1961]

..... I added my 4 times great grandmother Helen Porteous to it, someone then deleted it saying it was wrong.

Without any documentation for your Helen Porteous, you cannot prove you are correct.

 - Please post her death certificate.
 - Please post where you have her in the census.
 - Still waiting to see her marriage record (see reply #2)

A lot of public trees have the death for Helen Porteous in Angus in 1882. However there appears to be no record of this at all.
Have you looked at the death in Perth in 1895 for Helen Porteus / Helen McGregor (age 75)?


(There are numerous online public trees, all copying the wrong information from each other, and none with any documentation.)   

[JacobusV]

Helen Porteous is down as the mother of my 3 times Great Grandfather Robert on the excerpt of his death certificate I attached earlier. And according to DNA testing I'm related to her. Other Isobel Craig with cousins with DNA matching to Helens half brother John Leithead