Really Stuck and need help

[JacobusV]

Hi All

I wonder if you can help me. my paternal grandmothers grandfather was a Robert McGregor, born 13th July 1838 in Perth in Scotland. Doing my own research I was under the impression that his grandparents were a James McGregor, born in 1792 in Perth but died in Tramore Bay near Waterford in Ireland and that his grandmother was a Jannet Ritchie, born 14th March 1774 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire (a bit of a wide age gap I know). Having looked on Ancestry, there are multiple different people with conflicting information to the point I'm totally lost.

According to Ancestry, James father was a Peter McGregor born in 1753 and his mother was a Janet McKinlay born in Lanrick, Doune, Inverness-shire in 1752. However there are multiple competing line of descent from multiple different ancestry users who may (or may not) be relatives. Is there anyone on here that are connected or can help?

J

[CaroleW]

Firstly - ignore other peoples trees & do your own research.  People make errors & others copy the trees so the errors are spread.

You are skipping a generation in your post "Robert McGregors grandparents were James McGregor"

Start with what you know - where & when was your grandmother born?

Who were her parents - when & where did they marry?

Do you have her parents marriage cert which will give their respective parents names

Use that info to go back via the censuses to trace her fathers & establish who his parents were

[Neale1961]

Robert McGregor is very common name in Scotland.
Following other people’s mistakes on Ancestry trees is not recommended.
Making assumptions without viewing supporting documentation is also a waste of time. An index entry is NOT a document.


Robert McGRIGOR married Helen PORTEUS
20 July 1835 in Dundee, Angus.

What information does the marriage record give about their “home’ parishes?
Are there witnesses named?
Why do you think his family were from Perthshire?


Robert MacGregor, born 13th July 1838 in Perth.
Son of Robert MacGregor and Helen Porteous.

What does the birth / baptism record tell you about the father?


Robert McGregor 1841 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/60ea4b90f493fd7863259d1e/robert-mcgregour-1841-perthshire-perth-1838-?locale=en

You need to look for a burial for the father to obtain some idea about his age at death and therefore when he was born.

[JacobusV]

Hi Neale1961

This is connected to the Webbs, Jessie Ann Mcgregor was my Grandmother Nelly Webbs grandmother on her maternal side. As we have gone through in the past, the Webb side is pretty solid now and I've connected with dosens of relatives, but not on this side. A big sticking point was that there were 2 couples called Robert Mcgregor and Margaret Simpson living in the Glasgow area at the exact same time. Thankfully I confirmed that my Great Great Grandmother Jessie Ann was born in Perth, so my line of descent is from Robert Mcgregor and Helen Porteous.

The difficult part comes with this Roberts father. From my research using ancestry and familysearch as well as Scotland's People, it seems his parwnts were James McGregor and Janet Ritchie, however others have it down as James McGregor and Janet Henderson. James parwnts based on my research seem to me a Peter Mcgregor and a Janet McKinlay. Going further back through this line, this would make be a potential descendant of John Murray Mcgregor 1st of Glencarnoch, 5th Cheif of the children of the mist. I have confirmation on my mother's side via the Genealogist at Strathnaver Museum in Thurso (which I paid for) confirming my descent from King James V of Scotland via the Mackay's of Skerray. I'm now trying a different angle as I beleive that there may be a line of descent through this line via my paternal grand mother as well.

J

[JacobusV]

The below is my Great Great Grans birth certificate:

[JacobusV]

Hi there

Also a capture of Peter McGregors Marriage banns to Janet McKinlay

[JacobusV]

Struggling tfind My 3 times great Grandfathers record on Scotlands People, can only find the record on familysearch:

[JacobusV]

And here is his father attached

[JacobusV]

I'm struggling to find Robert Snrs parents James McGregor and Jannet Ritchie's marriage banns on Scotlands people or family search.

Cheers

J