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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #162 on: Thursday 11 September 25 08:49 BST (UK) »
Assuming we are on the right track....
By the age of 18, Ernie had acquired sufficient skill to be employed by a circus and taken to WA.

A little research shows Fitzgerald's Circus had a season in WA from May 29th to September 1908 including Perth and Fremantle. They then went on to Adelaide. Wirth’s Circus was in the Eastern States at this time.

Prior to this Fitzgeralds had been in NSW until April 1908

I do not see a visit to WA from it or any other circus in 1909, the year of the "vagabond acrobat" news item.

I see no circus advertised in WA on or near August 16th 1909

By 1910, Ernie was performing in Geelong advertised as "late of Wirth's Circus"
While it could be true he was late of that Company, it seems it was not they who took him to WA.

It was commonly the practice of circuses to train very young children in their crafts while they lived as part of the circus, The children were "adopted" and a deal struck with the parents which promised care and education for the child as well as circus training. They would later join the troupe.

Phillip Wirth was particularly known for this practice.

It made me wonder whether this was how Ernie first learnt his skills.  I would suggest it was not from his father, a cook of criminal tendency. ::)
However records show Wirth's Circus was out of Australia from 1893 to 1900.

Sue

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #163 on: Thursday 11 September 25 09:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb
   Hopefully we are on the right track and thanks for this information.  I cannot find now the advertisment in 1910 which said "late of Wirths circus".  Perhaps you can fill me in on that!!

  I guess that could be the case the circus took him in and he lived with them (which one who knows).

And again is he performing in a Theatre situation or a circus.  Could he have been in the circus first then moved on to Vaudeville.

I must admit it has been really interesting doing research on the circus, the performers, accidents and all that the circus entails.

Anyway the search goes on and thanks for the information.  Hopefully it will all "marry" up one day.  Dianna

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #164 on: Thursday 11 September 25 10:00 BST (UK) »
Geelong 1910, this is the only one I saw.  Dianna

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #165 on: Thursday 11 September 25 10:18 BST (UK) »
Also I didn't see any mention of an ERNEST WHITE acrobat anywhere.  So it looks like he started using the name CANNON when he got to Victoria possibly. Dianna


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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #166 on: Thursday 11 September 25 23:31 BST (UK) »
This was my mention re Wirth's

It doesn’t say Ernest but given his later references to family about his world records, I would take as the correct man

1910.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/149729230?searchTerm=%22cannon%20late%20wirths%22~12

I imagine, given his WA convictions, he was attempting to conceal his past by changing his name when he got to Victoria.

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #167 on: Friday 12 September 25 08:23 BST (UK) »
Ahhhh! Got it Sue.  Thanks so much, don't want to miss anything.  It said in the 1930 Article under HOPE that he travelled the GLOBE.  So he could well have been with Wirths (or?).

Thanks for refinding that.  Great to see it.   

Also I agree since the trouble in WA a name change looks likely.  Dianna

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« Reply #168 on: Friday 12 September 25 12:32 BST (UK) »
Looking at the records which have accumulated in this thread, I noticed that Samuel James FRANCIS on his NSW gaol record was 5 feet 4 inches in height.

I think considered short for an adult male in those times as it may be today.

Ernest William (struck through CANNON) HOPE on his WW1 record application was the same height exactly.

Heredity?

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« Reply #169 on: Friday 12 September 25 23:52 BST (UK) »
Seems likely to me the heritage.  I'm going to look at this today

https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-492995583/view?partId=nla.obj-492998171#page/n18/mode/1up

The book is called "ROUND THE WORLD WITH A CIRCUS"  Looks interesting.  Hopefully a snippet will be in here.

Also PHILIP Wirth was sometimes and Acrobat and because he was a big guy, he was used as the base for the other acrobats balancing on Top.  Hmmm Philip, another one of Ernests names used!

There is also a book called " The life of PHILIP Wirth"  Hopefully the National library will have this.

Thanks for the clue on Wirths Circus, could possibly lead somewhere.  Dianna

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #170 on: Saturday 13 September 25 02:05 BST (UK) »
While you are looking at the circus side of things, I’ll mention the “Brothers Martine” who were described as “comedy trampoline acrobats” and were advertised as “somersault record breakers of the world”. They made their first appearance in Australia in January 1910.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123826194?searchTerm=%22Brothers%20Martine%22%20AND%20acrobat
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)