ERNEST HOPE Acrobat

[sparrett]

He would have learnt his acrobatic skills from whoever raised him, maybe not a blood relative. I doubt he saw much of his father.

He somewhere learned to speak some Hindi.

I would bear in mind the recurrence of the name Phillip.
Based on what has been already found, Ernest had a basis for many names he used.

Sue

[haney]

I will email the library in Freemantle to see if they can offer anything re photo/description at the time  he was in gaol for a week I think it was.

Finding early photos of him will be vital I think to link it all up.  Possibly.  Yes the White's could have been the acrobats who knows. 

[haney]

 I decided to purchase that Ernest White birth certificate.  I knew it would help much but who knows down the track.  At least there is an exact address!

I've also emailed the library in WA. 

I found a couple of entries in the Polize Gazette there.

https://slwa.wa.gov.au/pdf/battye/police_gazettes/1908_Indexto30June.pdf

From the above link I have found
 Ernest WHITE on page P7 Apprehensions, WHITE, ERNEST 83
On page 22 for Prisoners Discharged WHITE ERNEST 104

Dianna

[sparrett]

MMmm.
No previous issue.
Where does this place Ellen?

Interesting because in the strictest sense the column heading refers to "previous issue of this union"
So the wording on this BC might mean-

No previous issue of the union with Samuel. Ellen being another man's child
OR
She is lying
OR
When a child is illegitimate it's not required to be mentioned.

I don't know, but somebody will

Sue

[Jennaya]

I think it means previous issue of the marriage.
She wasn't married so couldn't fill out that part at all.
I'm fairly sure that Ernest and Ellen won't be mentioned on the birth certificates of children born after her later marriage.
Regards
Jennaya

[haney]

I agree I have seen this many times in my own family.  Previous issue is not listed on the birth of an illegitimate child.  Such a shame really.  So not much valuable information on the BC of Ern BUT maybe able to track movements around this address and Newtown for the family of the WHITES.

I will check re baptisms also just in case for this area.  Thanks Dianna

[Neale1961]

A bit of info on the parents of Hope WHITE -----

Her father Charles White - charged with riotous conduct Newtown Sept 1894
Charles died 22 May 1897 (bootmaker; 13 King Street Newtown)

Her mother, Alexina White - charged with uttering counterfeit coin. March 1883
Alexina White – died 20 Dec 1913 (domestic servant, Newington Asylum)
Alexina’s mother’s surname was KING

[haney]

HI thank you for that extra bit. It will go straight onto the timeline.  Now isn't that interesting.  KING was the surname of Alexina's mum.  Hmmmm.

It sounds like Ernest may have known at least a bit about his family.  I am now contacting my resource at the Marrickville library see if he can squeeze out a few more bits and pieces.  LOL.  Many thanks Dianna

[haney]

I looked on Ryerson for Alexina, didn't see any death, burial information though.