ERNEST HOPE Acrobat

[Jennaya]

Also you think that ERNEST would be using the name LEE, if his mother married in 1891, when Ernie was 2/3.  Correct!!! This man is giving us all a migraine.  LOL

I'm thinking that Ernie may have been raised by someone else, or in a children's home. Due to him being a mixed race child born to a very young unmarried mother.

[haney]

That's quite possible.  Not sure how I will ever find that out.  I am going to try and find out if he was baptised at least.  He was 1/2 Irish after all.  Catholic?? Not sure I know HOPEWELL'S birth certificate has been posted (thanks).  Will recheck.  I doubt a Child born to a Catholic mum would not be baptised.

[Dundee]

Just another bit of gossip, the girl causing all the trouble at the theatre in 1912 - Violet Smith/Elsie Doyle (real name Emily Vennell).  She is quite pretty but goodness knows what happened to her hair, perhaps they cut it in prison. She had a pretty terrible childhood.

https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/fulldisplay?context=L&vid=61SRA&lang=en_US&docid=INDEX2092691

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/168736541

Debra 

[cupoflife]

Samuel FRANCIS was certainly a shifty character
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229991084

Not surprising, his age varied quite a bit LOL
1914 goal record states he is 58 (so born 1856) https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/fulldisplay?context=L&vid=61SRA&lang=en_US&docid=INDEX2219682
This could be his death (age 62) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188832109/samuel-francis
NSW Only 1 Samuel FRANCIS death in 1917 (14211/1917 Samuel FRANCIS; Father-JOHN; GRANVILLE)
Date of death is 28/09/1917 but burial date is 10/11/1917 (maybe a story there too)
https://rookwoodcemetery.discovereverafter.com/profile/26582872

[haney]

Hi again what I find intriguing is that his name does not sound in the LEAST bit Indian.  Samuel Francis!!!!  Hmmmm more alias's

Shifty for sure. 

[Jennaya]

Somewhere on here I read that Ernest HOPE has Mother unknown on his marriage to Sarah Towell.

This suggests that he wasn't raised by his mother.

Regards
Jennaya

[haney]

Yes Jennaya that is from the marriage certificate I have here.  I alway's thouht that was very strange. Dianna and he apparently just made up the name for his father.  LOL

[Neale1961]

Endless possibilities, but I’m thinking along the lines of ……..
Ernest born as WHITE, but raised by somebody KING or CANNON.
Used as a third name Francis, after his father’s surname FRANCIS.
Used his mother’s name Hope as a surname HOPE when it suited or an alias was needed.

He would have learnt his acrobatic skills from whoever raised him, maybe not a blood relative. I doubt he saw much of his father.
I would take a look at his mother’s siblings ( the family from Ireland)  to see if any of them were vaudeville entertainers or married a King or a Cannon.

[mckha489]

And important to see the 1908/1909 WA record of Ernest White aka King for description.
Seems it has to be a personal visit.  Presumably there are agents you could use?