ERNEST HOPE Acrobat

[haney]

I've had bit of a look in the New Zealand newspaper just to see if Ern turns up there.  I couldn't see anything though.

I've listed the companies he was apart of looks like 3 or 4 different ones.  Then I discovered by reading one of the advertisements that the performers were all in the Vauderville Artists Federation. 

Could be some records somewhere. Onwards and Upwards.  Have to be cautious too when the name CANNON (only) is listed in the Advertisements as there was a J.CANNON as well I think.  Just to complicate things.  Dianna

[haney]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/126458067?searchTerm=j%20cannon%20acrobat

[sparrett]

I must say that dancer is not one of the description’s I have seen in connection with Ernie. But having said that we must remember he was an adaptable character as we have seen.
I have seen him as acrobat, equilibrist, and hand balancer.
Sue

[Dundee]

Probably a red herring but I will put it here anyway.  A mention of an Ernest who was an acrobat...

The Evening Mail (Fremantle, WA : 1905 - 1910), Mon 16 Aug 1909, Page 2

A Vagabond Acrobat

A youth of 19, named Ernest White, alias King, was before Messrs. S. Thomson and J.Key, Js.P., in the Fremantle Police Court this morning on a charge of being a rogue and vagabond, by having been found sleeping in a boat shed at East Fremantle.  Constable O'Shea said the man had been drinking about East Fremantle during the past two weeks, doing no work, and it was in consequence of a report that witness proceeded to the boat shed yesterday morning and found him. In answer to the Bench, White said he came from Sydney, and had been in a circus but got stranded at Fremantle. Sergeant Smythe said the youth was convicted in Perth last year for unlawful possession, and was a "ne'er do well." The accused said he had friends in Melbourne,, and had tried to get a Passage in several boats, but failed. He was an acrobat, and penniless. The bench in sentencing White to 7 days imprisonment, advised him to get out of the country, when he was released.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/256701580

The previous conviction in Perth...

The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879 - 1954), Sat 28 Mar 1908, Page 10

Stolen Bags - Two youths named William Hulme and Ernest White were yesterday charged in the City Police Court, before Messrs. A. W. Glover and J. M; Lapsley, J.'sP., with the unlawful possession of a quantity of bags. There was a further charge against Hulme of being unlawfully on premises. White was fined 10s. and costs and on each of the charges upon which he was dealt with Hulme was sentenced to seven days' imprisonment. On a third charge of stealing, Hulme was remanded.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25719118

Debra 

[Dundee]

There were many births with that name in NSW, but coincidentally there was one in 1889 at Marrickville to a mother named Hope WHITE.  Her full name was Hopewell Irwin WHITE, born in Dublin and then immigrated with her parents and siblings.

She also had an illegitimate daughter who died as an infant and married in 1891 to Francis Benjamin LEE.  I cannot determine what happened to her son.  Her husband commited suicide in 1924 and her death notice only mentions the daughter she had with LEE.

LEE - April 24, 1944, Hope Lee, late of 4 Westwood Avenue, Belmore, beloved mother of Myrtle and grandmother of Norma, aged 72 years.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17867176

Debra 

[Dundee]

Well, Hope WHITE was associating with this guy in 1888.

1884
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/fulldisplay?context=L&vid=61SRA&lang=en_US&docid=INDEX2059327

1888
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/fulldisplay?context=L&vid=61SRA&lang=en_US&docid=INDEX2061627

1914
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/fulldisplay?context=L&vid=61SRA&lang=en_US&docid=INDEX2219682

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228422274

Debra 

[cupoflife]

There were many births with that name in NSW, but coincidentally there was one in 1889 at Marrickville to a mother named Hope WHITE.  Her full name was Hopewell Irwin WHITE, born in Dublin and then immigrated with her parents and siblings.

She also had an illegitimate daughter who died as an infant and married in 1891 to Francis Benjamin LEE.  I cannot determine what happened to her son.  Her husband commited suicide in 1924 and her death notice only mentions the daughter she had with LEE.

LEE - April 24, 1944, Hope Lee, late of 4 Westwood Avenue, Belmore, beloved mother of Myrtle and grandmother of Norma, aged 72 years.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17867176

Debra 

Hopewell Irwin WHITE
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1871/03311/2213682.pdf

Ship: Commonwealth Year: 1877 https://www.marinersandships.com.au/1877/07/009com.htm
WHITE   CHARLES               
WHITE   ALEXINA               
WHITE   ELLEN               
WHITE   JOHN               
WHITE   HOPEWELL

[haney]

Hi Everyone It's taking me time to wrap my head around all of this honestly.

I think the first thing to do if possible is to find the record of that Ernie White-King being put in prison for 7 days.  There maybe a Gaol entry description of him with his "colour" being mentioned.

Could be a Red Herring but everything is worth pursuing,  Wow I wonder if this Ernie in Western Australia is him. 

Also Ernest William HOPE never mentioned his mother on his marriage to Sarah Jane Towell, very strange.

Anyway I will look at all of this again and see where to go from there.  LOL.

Many thanks to everyone for all your efforts.  Dianna

[haney]

Well this is all fascinating!!  If HOPE LEE nee White died in 1944 why is she not mentioned on Ernies marriage certificate??? An oversite?? Or maybe I need to find the original document from the church.

Now there's another "family story" that MAY check out.  It was told to me that Ernies sister died in a house fire as a child/infant.  I could not find her on the NSW BDM for a death

I did see the births of Ernest and Ellen V so that's good with Hope White as the mum.

The assumption in the family was that the father of ERNEST WILLIAM FRANCIS HOPE was A white guy!!   

But it likely (possible) that the Dad is Indian and the mother White. 

So the thought is now that this dude Samuel FRANCIS (Indian) who was a border with Hope Whites family could possibly be Ernests father???

So he maybe the one who is/was the performer in India!! Just guessing.  Anyway this is great speculating and trying to work it all out.

I've attached the snip from a tree that was put together (speculative) by one of the family.  Will be interesting to see if ERNIE is in fact the son of HOPE IRWIN WHITE.  Many thanks Dianna