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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 08:28 BST (UK) »
For Erns first child B 10 August 1913 at 40 CLISDELL St. (this is most probably Surry Hills NSW)

Daphne Theresa - ILLEGITIMATE
Father: ERNEST WILLIAM HOPE, General Labourer, Aged 23 Born Sydney NSW

Mother: Adeline Ruth Formerly LOWE, now BOW Aged 24 Born South Australia

Informant: Adeline Bow, Mother, E. HOPE, Father, BOTH RESIDING AT 40 CLISDELL St

Registered 27 August 1913, Sydney

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 08:34 BST (UK) »
Ernies second child:-

22 September 1915
Birth Place 29 George St REDFERN
Name: Reginald Percy - ILLEGITIMATE
Father: ERNEST WILLIAM HOPE, Occupation OIL PACKER, Born SYDNEY NSW

Mother: Adeline Formerly LOWE, now BOW, 25 Born S. Australia
Informant: ERNEST HOPE, ADELINE BOW, Father and Mother
George St, Redfern
Registered 9 October 1915 Redfern.

From Memory George St is adjacent to that BOTANY ST. which was re named COPE St Redfern

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 08:59 BST (UK) »
I'm so glad that between us all we have worked to get an answer for you. ;D

Anyone who wanted to could put themselves in a directory as far as I know.
No qualifications needed.

I would like to add also that I do believe that Ern KING was the same identity and it is possible Adeline was not completely sure of the father of Leonard .

It does not appear to be Ern CANNON/HOPE.

Adeline was the person doing the registration for Leonard. Child not present. She cloaked the certificate in ambiguity, a little bit of Ernie and a little bit of BOW and gave Ernie the name KING which I think was not used again.

Sue

PS. No. No occupation. The snip I have posted is complete

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 09:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you both so much.  Now I dont think that we can deny that ERN CANNON the Acrobat was later known as ERNEST WILLIAM HOPE.

He may not have been performing after the birth of Dapne Theresa, not enough money perhaps in performing!!!  Just guessing of course though

Maybe with this name 'CANNON' I can find out more!!!  I can only hope.  The plot thickens.  So grateful for the help.

This family sure is "mixed" up!!  LOL.  There is some clarity now though.  Many thanks Dianna


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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 09:21 BST (UK) »
Therefore the  given names Ernest Phillip, starting with Leonard and lastly given in the father's name for Ernest William Frances HOPE clearly connect the three identitiies, KING, CANNON (if he has turned out to be HOPE)

I would consider the possibility that KING was possibly the man's real surname.
CANNON then HOPE.

Sue
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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #77 on: Friday 05 September 25 00:23 BST (UK) »
HI Sue
    I will consider that!  Thanks for your thoughts.  I just found something re Sands Directory.  Maybe nothing but??  There was an ADELINE CANNON in 1920 at 107 George St.  Waterloo.  Hmmm I wonder.  I can't see the whole page or image though.

Well I think I have a concise timeline for Ernerst (with many monickers).  I will keep making enquires though.  When I gather more information on him (from the family) like pulling teeth LOL I will go from there.  Kindest regards Dianna

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #78 on: Friday 05 September 25 01:15 BST (UK) »
Using this link, you should be able to see relevant NSW Sands Directories in their entirety at the Archives.
Takes a bit of selection and keywork, but easy enough.
More reliable than the Ancestry version IMO..

https://archives.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/nodes/view/1899599

I cannot see your finding in the 1920 edition.

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #79 on: Friday 05 September 25 01:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks I used the link and no Adeline CANNON there!!  Odd.  Dianna

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Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« Reply #80 on: Friday 05 September 25 03:33 BST (UK) »
If you use the link to Sydney Sands that Sue gave, but use the "Part 8 Suburban Directory Waterloo to Woollahra" the entry is on page 4 of 61.

George St (after Wellington St) "107 Cannon Mrs, Adeline"

Modified to add:

Adeline CANNON is also at 107 George St Waterloo in 1921, but it is vacant in 1922. In 1919 there is a W H A SMITH at that address.